How do you separate your 2nd Amend support from other Republic rhetoric?

[MrKiltYou]

[nedro]

Conservatives did not pick this fight. Leftists did.
You might want to ask yourself how you can align with a group intended on taking away individual rights such as free speech, among many others.

[speedrrracer]

I haven't heard a peep from the NRA, SAF or CalGuns about abortion or gays, but maybe I missed it.

Examples?

[readysetgo]

Show us your years of dues paid troll or gtfo.

There is no conflict, even for special snowflakes.

[gogohopper]

1) Stop drinking the CNN/Lib kool-aid regarding R's.

2) Actually look at R policies and states run by R's.

3) Vote R, preserve the 2nd. Vote D, lose the 2nd.

4) Choose.

[Kowan]

1) Stop drinking the CNN/Lib kool-aid regarding R's.

2) Actually look at R policies and states run by R's.

3) Vote R, preserve the 2nd. Vote D, lose the 2nd.

4) Choose.

Plain as day.

[MrKiltYou]

Show us your years of dues paid troll or gtfo.

There is no conflict, even for special snowflakes.

As if I would still have that information. I stopped being an NRA member over 10 years ago. Oh and the GTFO comment so adult of you...

[2Aallday]

This is a key question. For my part, I can't stand discussing 2A rights only to have the conversation run off the road in to abortion-land or similar. What a waste of time and energy.

I try to just keep the conversation on track, and move back when antis try to draw it off-course.

[DrScorpio]

As if I would still have that information. I stopped being an NRA member over 10 years ago. Oh and the GTFO comment so adult of you...

So adult of you to imply that 2A supporters somehow live in anguish over our support of hate, racism and intolerance. We can read between the lines.

[MrKiltYou]

1) Stop drinking the CNN/Lib kool-aid regarding R's.

2) Actually look at R policies and states run by R's.

So you are telling me that Republican's generally do not:

Opposed to same sex marriage.
Opposed to the rights of people to get abortions.
Support the death penalty
Support universal healthcare

[MrKiltYou]

So adult of you to imply that 2A supporters somehow live in anguish over our support of hate, racism and intolerance. We can read between the lines.

You are right I did imply that people in the NRA (not members; people who run it) and the Republic politicians I believe are intolerant. I never implied they hate or are raciest.

[readysetgo]

As if I would still have that information. I stopped being an NRA member over 10 years ago. Oh and the GTFO comment so adult of you...

Like I thought...

Back up your claims or you and your supposed dilemma have zero credibility.

[penguinman]

Successful bait thread is successful.

But seriously, I actually agree with most of that other Republican "rhetoric." Or at least enough of it to keep me voting for them. Hell, for a while voting R was simply a protest votes against the Ds for me. At least until I got older and started paying taxes. That plus moving to California 5 years ago I've seen what one party Dem rule does first hand. So I vote for whatever is my best chance for reducing the power of the Dems.

[baggss]

I am sure there are tons of pro 2nd amendment people who don’t believe in other social politics (gay rights/abortion/etc) supported by the majority of pro 2nd amendment organizations and politicians.

That's probably a big mistake right there. The 2A issue crosses all walks of life and isn't as neatly divided into R vs D as one might think. There are Pro gun Ds and Anti Gun Rs. The Pink pistols are a huge example of Pro Gun Ds who view the 2A as vital to their security and well being.

What I want to know is how do you internally separate those issues?

I have long maintained that the R side of the isle needed to get off social issues and worry more about fiscal responsibility, foreign policy and immigration. Gays and abortion are done deal, like it or not.

For years I was a member of the NRA and registered Republican. However as I started thinking about the world I live in, how Republican politics effects both my family, friends, and others it became clear I could no longer support ether organization.

I'm still a member of both and see no reason to leave either. I'm not thrilled by everything either organization does but their ideals ,not just about the 2A, are far more aligned with my personal beliefs than anything that the other side has to offer. If that means you view me as a racist, then that's your problem not mine.

Are there pro 2nd amendment groups/politicians that don’t proselytize other Republican agenda items?

The Pink Pistols I mentioned above. A Gay 2A group. How's that for diametrically opposed? How about D US Senators and Congressmen who have an A rating from the NRA?

[rplusplus]

So you are telling me that Republican's generally do not:

Opposed to same sex marriage.
Opposed to the rights of people to get abortions.
Support the death penalty
Support universal healthcare

Conservative here. Sure call me a Republican because that is who mostly represents my beliefs.

Don't care about who you bang... Just don't shut down my bakery cause my baker doesn't want to draw dicks on your cake

I am a guy, don't give a F what a woman does with her body. That is between her and her doctor.

Death penalty... I think we need to bring back the Friday Hanging. And Dueling too. Make for a more polite society if people had to own up to their actions and their mouth.

Universal Healthcare... Healthcare is NOT a right. You want good healthcare, get a job and pay for it. Going to die without that Surgery or Medication? I guess you shouldn't have majored in Vagina Studies.

Am I cruel? Nope. Realist.

Oh and I say Merry Christmas and believe a Man should hold a door for a lady.

Conservative.