Can we just stop...

[BluNorthern]

Calling semi-automatic rifles "assault rifles" here?

It's not what they are, it's a media and liberal creation to scare soccer moms and wussies.

We need to quit playing their game.

How about we try to change the dialogue to the truth, rather than play along with our enemies.

[WartHog]

Hear Hear - Well Said!

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[zhyla]

I rarely see the term "assault rifle" used here. Do you mean "assault weapon"? Because that is a legal term we should all be very familiar with by now and -- like it or not -- is not going away.

[elSquid]

It's a conversation that should have happened 30 years ago...





...at this point the die seems pretty much cast.

-- Michael

[GM4spd]

A little late----

[BluNorthern]

I rarely see the term "assault rifle" used here. Do you mean "assault weapon"? Because that is a legal term we should all be very familiar with by now and -- like it or not -- is not going away.

Yeah...assault rifle/assault weapon.

You can call it a legal term if you want, it's a fictitious description designed to instill negative emotions in regards to a common firearm platform. We're not talking 3 round burst or full auto....the description is a lie.

You go ahead and accept it if you want, there's a lot of that going on around here.

[elSquid]

You go ahead and accept it if you want, there's a lot of that going on around here.

At one point "Saturday night special" was the super scary gun grabber term...and now it's not.

WRT "assault rifles" instead of trying to banish a term that's been out there for 35+ years, better perhaps to explain to people what it really means.

There was a Bill Mahr episode a few months back where he was actually explaining how it was a BS term...I think that's how you win at this point.

-- Michael

[BluNorthern]

At one point "Saturday night special" was the super scary gun grabber term...and now it's not.

WRT "assault rifles" instead of trying to banish a term that's been out there for 35+ years, better perhaps to explain to people what it really means.

There was a Bill Mahr episode a few months back where he was actually explaining how it was a BS term...I think that's how you win at this point.

-- Michael

I know....like "high capacity" magazines for standard magazines.

Gun grabbers have to resort to shock and awe to manipulate the dialogue.

[kwilkes91386]

"high capacity" or "high cap" mags is a term that gun manufactures came up with. Just like those magazines noted above as it relates to rifles. I guess I could start calling them "high capacity clips" and get someone really riled up....

[dieselpower]

completely foolish childish talk, I dont like a word, lets not use it

come on now, grow up.

The term Assault Rifle is a derivative of the words used to describe a new form of firearm the Nazis invented, a smaller rifle carried by troops into close combat.

read and educate yourself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44

its an actual thing.

The term Assault Weapon was created as a legal definition of a firearm used in the same way, but not just a rifle. Its a legal term.

How about this, we stop playing games with the definition and meaning of the 2nd A and say exactly what it was written for, to allow a civilian to kill another civilian legally.

When someone asks you why you want a 2nd Amendment, tell them, "Because I want to kill without being charged with murder."

I want and like the term assault weapon and I want the term assault rifle.
What I hate is foolish children trying to say the 2nd Aendment is so they can hunt animals or play GI Joe with firearms.

You have no right to hunt, you have no right to firearm sports, you have no right to play with firearms or collect them. Those are all privileges granted by Government.

You have a right to own and use Assault Weapons, to kill other people trying to kill you.

[CitaDeL]

completely foolish childish talk, I dont like a word, lets not use it

come on now, grow up.

The term Assault Rifle is a derivative of the words used to describe a new form of firearm the Nazis invented, a smaller rifle carried by troops into close combat.

read and educate yourself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44

its an actual thing.

The term Assault Weapon was created as a legal definition of a firearm used in the same way, but not just a rifle. Its a legal term.

How about this, we stop playing games with the definition and meaning of the 2nd A and say exactly what it was written for, to allow a civilian to kill another civilian legally.

When someone asks you why you want a 2nd Amendment, tell them, "Because I want to kill without being charged with murder."

I want and like the term assault weapon and I want the term assault rifle.
What I hate is foolish children trying to say the 2nd Aendment is so they can hunt animals or play GI Joe with firearms.

You have no right to hunt, you have no right to firearm sports, you have no right to play with firearms or collect them. Those are all privileges granted by Government.

You have a right to own and use Assault Weapons, to kill other people trying to kill you.

I completely agree that it is childish and foolish to avoid using a word for fear it might be given power....

Both state and national law makers who use anything other than 'arms' are only subdividing the characteristics of protected weaponry and those who own them when they use nomenclature foreign to the constitution. We however, recognize and agree that 'assault weapons' are the arms that the founders intended to protect from onerous regulations, unlawful taxation, and prohibition.

[zhyla]

I for one get tired of the members that show up here once in a while and want to preach about the power of words. Especially in a gun forum where most people here are very educated about the meanings.

[BluNorthern]

Liberal anti-gunners have been using the 'power of words' to set the dialogue and kick our asses back to where, if they keep winning, we won't even be able to defend ourselves with slingshots.

[elSquid]

http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/26/public-support-for-assault-weapon-ban-hi

-- Michael

[zhyla]

Liberal anti-gunners have been using the 'power of words' to set the dialogue and kick our asses back to where, if they keep winning, we won't even be able to defend ourselves with slingshots.

That's a very philosophical denial of the facts: we are losing because our fellow citizens do not need or want to own firearms and are uncomfortable with others doing so. I hear the term "sawed off shotgun" from non-gun people frequently. What they really mean is "scary gun". That's all these terms mean to most people. Arguing about names with us or them is wasted effort.