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  • #16
    curtisfong
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2009
    • 6893

    No mention of the problem of a very long distance buyer who wishes to make a PPT transfer having to make two trips?

    FGG (for all his vaunted omniscience) doesn't even seem to understand the problem.

    This whole thing is a farce.
    The Rifle on the WallKamala Harris

    Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome

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    • #17
      moleculo
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 945

      Originally posted by curtisfong

      FGG (for all his vaunted omniscience) doesn't even seem to understand the problem.

      This whole thing is a farce.
      No, actually FGG did say that this lawsuit was a good target. He also did understand the problem, which was CGF and their brilliant legal team was behind this suit.
      Those acting in the public interest assume obligations of accountability and transparency. Retroactively redefining goals while claiming yet refusing to disclose some "master plan" is just the opposite. So is viciously trashing anyone who questions your judgment. -navyinrwanda

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      • #18
        Capybara
        CGSSA Coordinator
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2012
        • 14275

        Out of all of the big California gun cases, the outcome of this one pisses me off more than any other. Such utter and complete lack of logic, fairness and jurisprudence has rarely been seen. The 9th is OWNED by Kamala Harris, her footprints are all over this ruling.
        NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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        • #19
          Richbutnotwealthy
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 65

          Has anybody made a study of the legislators / districts and jurists who regularly screw us on teh 2nd Amendment? It would be a necessary precursor to some larger organized effort to remove them from office. It's time for the Sacramento and San Francisco socialists to feel some protracted heat for what they are doing, in abrogation of their oaths.(social) Media exposure, recalls, negative publicity, anything and everything to remove them from office.
          And given the furor over Trump, even "progressive" socialist voters can be swayed with an argument regarding curtailment of their 2nd amendment rights. Since so many of them are suddenly interested in being armed.

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          • #20
            AGGRO
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 2792

            Originally posted by Twhite5555
            What a joke I hate California. I am so glad I have moved to a much better place now residing in Colorado. Bought my first handgun took 10 minutes and walked out with it. Received my CCW in less than 5 weeks. California is lost.
            I'm from CO and you all are right behind us. Can you have a thirty round mag?

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            • #21
              Firearms1979
              Banned
              • Aug 2016
              • 106

              Originally posted by The Gleam
              Somehow I have a feeling this is still not over.

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              • #22
                Blade Gunner
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 4422

                Everyone is focused on SCOTUS. Trump needs 3 pro 2A appointments to fix this mess. We are looking at many years to cull SCOTUS and get cases to make there way through the 9th district to get to SOCUS. There is a more expedient approach. The 9th district has 4 vacancies. Prior Rhino Presidential nominations has to suck up to western states libtard in the Senate to get Judges confirmed. Harry Reid changed filibuster rules to ram through Obama judicial nominations. Now the Reps control the Senate and can confirm any judge Trump nominates to the 9th district. This is a swamp that needs draining. With 4 vacancies and an aging bench, getting the 9th back to a Constitutional basis is a faster and more effecient way to restore 2A to CA.
                If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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                • #23
                  ironpegasus
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 578

                  Our 18th and 19th century forebears knew nothing about electronic transmissions.
                  Odd... from what I'm reading, the idea of the telegraph (instantaneous electronic communication) was first mentioned in scientific journals in the 1750's. By the early 1800's, prototypes were in use. By the 1850's, there were 20 US based telegraph companies with 23,000 miles of deployed wire for instantaneous communication. Given how many of our founding fathers were well read men who also traveled the world, I would actually imagine that many of them (especially Franklin and Jefferson) would probably have heard of the concept. With the advent of clippers and then steam engines, I am quite certain that not only did our founding fathers likely know that orders could be placed instantaneously if not at present then in the near (foreseeable) future, but that delivery time would also decrease commensurately. But hey, I'm not a judge and the whole two minutes it took me to find that information to make an EDUCATED statement about what the founding fathers likely knew about the possibility of instantaneous electronic communication is probably too valuable for a judge to waste making sure they get actual FACTS in their rulings...

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                  • #24
                    Dnele928
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 680

                    As noted above, the reasoning is clearly...stupid. Just that simple. Stupid.

                    Now, the problem with that - it is a clear demonstration that we have stupid government entities. Just that simple. Lot of text, but distill it down - stupid.

                    Talk a lot, write a lot, but still just...stupid. How on earth did these people get into these positions? Pretty sure we couldn't slap sense into them. Just not possible.

                    The problem is, as the saying goes - you can't fix stupid.

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                    • #25
                      A324
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 1041

                      Originally posted by The Gleam
                      Somehow I have a feeling this is still not over.
                      Yep, and they know it and hope we will just lay down and give up. I just don't see that happening. The proverbial feces has hit the fan.

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                      • #26
                        Rgarbarino
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 1112

                        Wasn't the whole point of the 10 day wait a "cooling off" period so someone wouldn't run off to a gun shop all pissed off and buy a gun?

                        Not because of superstores and super highways and delivery times....what a joke.

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                        • #27
                          63j300
                          Member
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 386

                          Ok and in the 18th and early 19th century friends neighbors and or strangers would sell guns to eachother without a background check or wait. So lets bring it back.
                          2 Timothy 3

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                          • #28
                            curtisfong
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 6893

                            Originally posted by Blade Gunner
                            The 9th district has 4 vacancies.
                            As long as the petty, spiteful, childishly biased Chief Judge Sydney Thomas is running the show, the 9th is a lost cause.
                            The Rifle on the WallKamala Harris

                            Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome

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                            • #29
                              colossians323
                              Crusader for the truth!
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 21358

                              Originally posted by penguinman
                              I expected this. At this point its impossible to get a reasonable hearing on any 2A issues in the 9th Circuit.
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                              This.........................That is why the courts are not the answer, until the ideologs are flushed out, we will continue to see the second trampled. No where did the Founders say that your second amendment rights can be put on hold for 10 days
                              LIVE FREE OR DIE!

                              M. Sage's I have a dream speech;

                              Originally posted by M. Sage
                              I dream about the day that the average would-be rapist is afraid to approach a woman who's walking alone at night. I dream of the day when two punks talk each other out of sticking up a liquor store because it's too damn risky.

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                              • #30
                                penguinman
                                Member
                                • Jun 2016
                                • 247

                                Originally posted by Blade Gunner
                                Everyone is focused on SCOTUS. Trump needs 3 pro 2A appointments to fix this mess. We are looking at many years to cull SCOTUS and get cases to make there way through the 9th district to get to SOCUS. There is a more expedient approach. The 9th district has 4 vacancies. Prior Rhino Presidential nominations has to suck up to western states libtard in the Senate to get Judges confirmed. Harry Reid changed filibuster rules to ram through Obama judicial nominations. Now the Reps control the Senate and can confirm any judge Trump nominates to the 9th district. This is a swamp that needs draining. With 4 vacancies and an aging bench, getting the 9th back to a Constitutional basis is a faster and more effecient way to restore 2A to CA.

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