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  • #16
    Noble Cause
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 2633

    Originally posted by FC1
    So I tried to read the law and from what I can gather
    it states that we must register our "Assault weapons" by January 1 2017.
    It also states that DOJ must produce a method for registering these guns.
    Specifically

    30900 (2) Registrations shall be submitted electronically via the Internet
    utilizing a public-facing application made available by the department.

    Where is this registration portal? If they don't produce it by January, is the
    DOJ violating the law? I asked the DOJ how I should register, and they
    basically said they are working that out. Its fricking September. I'm not a
    conspiracy guy,
    but this really does sound like they are trying to
    make lawful gun owners into felons.
    Emphasis mine.

    That has always been the Anti's True Intentions.





    Noble

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    • #17
      AceGirlsHusband
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 2651

      Originally posted by OniKoroshi
      I take it that site is where it WILL be in the near future? I see only the Firearm Ownership Record on that list so far...

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      • #18
        AceGirlsHusband
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 2651

        Originally posted by rm1911
        Our rulers cannot break the law. They are the law.

        You will register. Period. If they haven't provided you sufficient means for compliance, then it's your fault if you don't register.
        Absolutely. You should know what to do without having to be told. And don't call DOJ on 12/31/17. They're on holiday.

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        • #19
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30239

          Originally posted by AceGirlsHusband
          I take it that site is where it WILL be in the near future? I see only the Firearm Ownership Record on that list so far...
          The earliest CA DOJ BOF can make it live on the website is 01-01-2017.
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          • #20
            BigPimping
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2010
            • 21374

            You are very eager to get on another list aren't you?
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            • #21
              ifilef
              Banned
              • Apr 2008
              • 5665

              I do agree that the APA should not have been waived, but that is politics.

              Legislature has given a year's notice to register from the effective date of the registration statutes. Most of us here knew of the new laws' enactment on July 1, that is a year and a half notice. What the heck is your problem?

              The implementation regulations must be adopted before one can register in 2017.
              Last edited by ifilef; 09-05-2016, 5:58 PM.

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              • #22
                SonoftheRepublic
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2006
                • 97

                Perhaps this video will help some people:

                www.appleseedinfo.org

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                • #23
                  Icypu
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1046

                  Do you have to own a registered rifle to register it as an AW? Or could you just register it as an AW and do both.

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                  • #24
                    bwiese
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 27611

                    Originally posted by Icypu
                    Do you have to own a registered rifle to
                    register it as an AW? Or could you just register it as an AW and
                    do both?
                    No, you're mixing & matching things...

                    ... 99% of long guns purchased before law changed in 2014 in CA were
                    not "registered" - even though individuals purchased guns with background
                    checks and 4473 paperwork, there's not much info in the system on these.
                    If you purchased a 10/22 or Remington 700 in 2013 there is a paper 4473
                    copy at the gun shop. The DOJ has no true "DROS" record, though there
                    could be an audit trail record on the computer that might be traceable to
                    you - but it would not have make/model/serial#.

                    Additionally many people moved into CA before 2014 with legally configured
                    ARs that were not 'papered' at all in CA - nor were they required to 'register'
                    them, either. [Only after 2014 for "new residents" is this required, and this
                    matches up with the 1998 reg. requirement for registering handguns for people
                    moving into CA ("New Handgun Ownership Report")]

                    Similarly the 2000 reg period for SB23 AWs did not [nor, really, could not] require
                    any prior paperwork/registration.
                    Last edited by bwiese; 09-06-2016, 2:17 PM.

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                    • #25
                      scootle
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 2702

                      I wonder how many previously "illegal" assault weapons will amazingly end up registered this time when the RAW system opens up again...
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                      • #26
                        OniKoroshi
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1321

                        Originally posted by AceGirlsHusband
                        I take it that site is where it WILL be in the near future? I see only the Firearm Ownership Record on that list so far...
                        I'm pretty sure yes. There was a CPRA email mentioning CRIS and it being used for registration. They have probably rolled out CRIS in beta to iron out the bugs.

                        Here's a thread back in May in the C&R forum talking about this. Funny how CRIS went live a few months prior to all the bill signings. Just saying.

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                        • #27
                          bwiese
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 27611

                          Originally posted by scootle
                          I wonder how many previously "illegal" assault weapons will amazingly end up registered this time when the RAW system opens up again...
                          Scootle,

                          1. Roberti-Roos/Kasler-listed "by name" guns likely will trigger consequences
                          if attempted to be be registered.

                          These could only be registered in certain timeframes (1990, 92?, 2000-2001).


                          2. Guns that were SB23 AWs and illegally-configured may have people trying to
                          'clean them up'. However, such actions may elevate the burden of proof significantly
                          but do not erase the prior crime.
                          Last edited by bwiese; 09-07-2016, 10:28 AM.

                          Bill Wiese
                          San Jose, CA

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