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  • #46
    Cali-Shooter
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2009
    • 9192

    Originally posted by lhecker51
    Many of you know this one.

    A New Bull



    You either come out strong and fight, or you are left with making concessions and forced to live with the crumbs of freedom they allow you to keep. The state and federal government consider those that make concessions and not fight good citizen minions. Peasant subjects of the powerful oligarchy that promises protection and safety in exchange for your treasure (liberty & freedom), and loyalty.

    Call me crazy, but I lived my entire combat leader career believing freedom was not only worth defending, it is worth fighting and dying for. Now I find the biggest threat to the people is the government. It is an eternal truth that the greatest threat to a nation is never an external enemy: It is the people themselves, especially when they are armed. Benevolent heads of state do not fear their citizens. It is only the corrupt that live in fear of their citizens and they are the first to demand disarmament "for the safety of the people".

    I am still that guy. The supposed crazy one that actually values my freedom and liberty and I get a bit upset when our corrupt leaders call me a threat to society because of what my gun looks like. I can never forget that the DHS had a profile that fit me perfectly as a potential domestic terrorist for the following reasons:

    1. Returning combat leader
    2. Constitutional ideologue (Kind of a job requirement when you are a serviceman)
    3. Not happy with current direction of government
    4. Owns guns

    No tinfoil here. They came out and stated it in writing that I have a copy of.

    Many folks have no fight in them as they see freedom and liberty as not worth fighting for. The fact remains that even these folks will fight, but not until the fight comes to their door. By then it is far too late and they have nothing left to defend and fight with.

    This is the history of human nature playing out time and time again and yet we know what happened to the disarmed but think it will be different for us?

    Growing up it was drilled into me by my father and then by the military: God, Guns, & Guts are the key principles of a free nation. Now I find that all of these principles are considered evil and intolerant. This has been an interesting state to live in. What does it take for gun owning residents to organize and stand up to be counted as at least "present" but against this tyranny? Do they have to be at your door with a list and a warrant having found your guns to be illegal or just to perform a safety compliance visit "for the good of the community"?

    Did you know that in the DoD Extremism Awareness Training that they state Colonists were also violent extremist ideologues that eventually took up arms? I could not believe they were framing them as a threat in their day and that military personnel need to look out for any of the same!

    The same document list the Southern Poverty Law Center as a primary source and reference for material in the presentation. They tie militias to white supremacy at every opportunity and present the narrative that all militias are racist havens for white supremacy. They listed Three Percenters and Oath Keepers as well because they are on the SPLC list of hate groups along with many evangelical pastors (preach against the sin of homosexuality).

    For every statement I have made above, I have the official source documents that are highlighted in full context. If you want to know who the enemy is they are targeting, look in the mirror and to your left and right. Again, an armed citizenry is a problem for any corrupt government and they will actively attempt to disarm us. If they can't take the guns, they will regulate the ammo and apply onerous regulatory burdens regarding how you can keep your firearms. You all know this, yet MANY still see no reason to stand and be counted out of fear of being noticed. The main excuse is "we are a minority in the state and the current majority will never change so why try? Every time we speak up, they take even more of our rights away." If this is the prevailing attitude, then we have lost and it is only a matter of time before you are relegated to air rifles and muskets.
    Well said, I absolutely agree. The real issue is, what can we really do about it? I guess time will tell, but it's a very slippery slope and it always seem to end with us screwed either way, whether it's slowly tightening the vise around us, or driving us over the cliff in an instant with knee-jerk laws and measures.
    Even our victories are merely a slowing down of the process, they just spam and stack the ballot and senate vote and it will just get passed the next go-around. It's an uphill battle politically at every level and every position of the state gov is against us, whether it's certain LEO's, Dept Chiefs & Sheriffs, Judicial, Senators & Assemblymen, et al.

    Legal Public disobedience on a mass scale seems the most legally feasible and the most likely to garner sympathy, but we as gun owners refuse to (or for whatever reason, can't) unite in the face of this adversity.
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    • #47
      chris
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2006
      • 19447

      Originally posted by nedro
      Well, Newsom is laughing at all of you!
      Newsom, "The little twerps don't have the balls to do anything about it. I bunch of crying whiners will go away after a while and the rest, we will persecute out of existence. After all their only recourse would be to revolt. That's a good one. Let's just give them better TV and be done with it. Losers, the bunch of them."
      post an accurate source. if this is true this should be on the news period. showing what the truth is. would I put it past him to say something like? hell no. in fact probably the majority of the legislators have this mindset.
      http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php
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      Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A
      contact the governor
      https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php
      In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend.
      NRA Life Member.

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      • #48
        lhecker51
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 704

        Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
        Well said, I absolutely agree. The real issue is, what can we really do about it? I guess time will tell, but it's a very slippery slope and it always seem to end with us screwed either way, whether it's slowly tightening the vise around us, or driving us over the cliff in an instant with knee-jerk laws and measures.
        Even our victories are merely a slowing down of the process, they just spam and stack the ballot and senate vote and it will just get passed the next go-around. It's an uphill battle politically at every level and every position of the state gov is against us, whether it's certain LEO's, Dept Chiefs & Sheriffs, Judicial, Senators & Assemblymen, et al.

        Legal Public disobedience on a mass scale seems the most legally feasible and the most likely to garner sympathy, but we as gun owners refuse to (or for whatever reason, can't) unite in the face of this adversity.
        The challenges as related by others:

        You will never get folks with the time to drive clear up to Sac.

        My response: Sac for local gun owners and other central locations for the rest of the counties or selected counties to consolidate larger numbers,yet will be not too far a drive. Gun owning victims of violent crime should speak at these events to relate how the current gun laws confounded their ability to defend themselves. My wife is one of them.
        Last edited by lhecker51; 03-17-2016, 12:54 PM.
        sigpicNRA Life Member***I have not and will not ever comply****

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        • #49
          k1dude
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2009
          • 13598

          Originally posted by Jimi Jah
          The feds will round up and deport 12 million illegal aliens incarcerate gun owners before they confiscate rifles from the citizenry. deport 12 million illegal aliens.
          Fixed it for you.
          "Show me a young conservative and I'll show you a man without a heart. Show me an old liberal and I'll show you a man without a brain." - Sir Winston Churchill

          "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" - Senator Barry Goldwater

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