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  • #16
    rynando
    Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 190

    Originally posted by steadyrock
    This girl is going to be shown the door along with many of the supervisors who appointed her in 2010. If we work together we can assure that because together, we win.

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    • #17
      Librarian
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      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 44626

      Not that it's likely, but she's an appointee at the moment. The appointment could be withdrawn by the BofS. "Insubordination" would be the grounds.

      If she were to be re-elected, the BofS loses that power.
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      • #18
        yellowfin
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2007
        • 8371

        Originally posted by rynando
        Expect to read things like “Sheriff Hutchens fought the powerful gun lobby to keep deadly weapons off your streets and away from your children” in her campaign ads.
        Can't our side just as easily run "Hutchens said "F*** you" to law abiding citizens wanting to defend their families and flipped the middle finger to the committee who oversees her doing her job" ? Quit validating the opposition. The antis have an imaginary power that only becomes real when nobody calls their bull**** loud with enough force. These anti gun toad sheriffs can be and deserve to be made public enemy number one.
        Last edited by yellowfin; 12-19-2008, 2:09 AM.
        "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
        Originally posted by indiandave
        In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
        Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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        • #19
          N6ATF
          Banned
          • Jul 2007
          • 8383

          If that's possible, and they don't toss her for insubordination, then they do need to be voted out of office along with her.

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          • #20
            rynando
            Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 190

            Originally posted by Librarian
            Not that it's likely, but she's an appointee at the moment. The appointment could be withdrawn by the BofS. "Insubordination" would be the grounds.

            If she were to be re-elected, the BofS loses that power.

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            • #21
              yellowfin
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2007
              • 8371

              Not so sure about that, they seemed to take our side decently well in reporting it this time around. It would make for just as good press material--in the form of a train wreck, which they love-- to see a sheriff ousted by a sort of rebellion of the citizenry in response to oppression. The story is just too good to resist.
              "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
              Originally posted by indiandave
              In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
              Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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              • #22
                rynando
                Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 190

                Originally posted by yellowfin2
                Can't our side just as easily run "Hutchens said "F*** you" to law abiding citizens wanting to defend their families and flipped the middle finger to the committee who oversees her doing her job" ? Quit validating the opposition. The antis have an imaginary power that only becomes real when nobody calls their bull**** loud with enough force. These anti gun toad sheriffs can be and deserve to be made public enemy number one.

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                • #23
                  yellowfin
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 8371

                  They definitely need to do that, for sure, and make sure that candidate doesn't get torpedoed. A good friend of mine told me some time ago a great replacement for Santa Clara's wicked witch got derailed by a couple of journalists' poison pen campaign.
                  "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
                  Originally posted by indiandave
                  In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
                  Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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                  • #24
                    CAL.BAR
                    CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5632

                    Originally posted by dustoff31
                    Sadly, she is probably right.

                    I said so in the first posting before the hearing. CCW's are less than one third of one percent of the OC population. You can't get much more minority than that.

                    Guess we just have to champion a more "popular" cause

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                    • #25
                      chiefcrash
                      Internet Dictator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 3408

                      Originally posted by GMONEY
                      "Hutchens said she understands that her stance on gun permits has created political enemies from the gun activists. But she thinks they are a minority and that the broader community respects her approach."

                      http://www.ocregister.com/articles/g...-carona-county
                      Let's try a thought experiment. What Hutchens has said today will probably not recieve a second thought from anyone but us gun owners. But what if she said the following, modifying only 2 terms:

                      "Hutchens said she understands that her stance on slavery has created political enemies from the African Americans. But she thinks they are a minority and that the broader community respects her approach."

                      Now, if anybody said something like, they'd be all but hanged. Interesting...
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                      It is clear from this thread that citadel grad was the gunman, and Oswald his patsy.

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                      • #26
                        bulgron
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 2783

                        Originally posted by djandj
                        I said so in the first posting before the hearing. CCW's are less than one third of one percent of the OC population. You can't get much more minority than that.

                        Guess we just have to champion a more "popular" cause
                        How enthusiastic do individuals usually get for Sheriff's elections in California? That is, how many volunteers and donations can Hutchens count on from the huge majority of people who do not have CCWs?

                        Contrast that to the hundreds of people who are highly motivated to see her lose this election. Consider the man-hours and donations they're likely to put out there to campaign for a candidate they like better.

                        If the OC gunnies remain motivated and organized, Hutchens may have more of a problem facing her than she realizes.
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                        • #27
                          Shotgun Man
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 4053

                          Originally posted by bulgron
                          How enthusiastic do individuals usually get for Sheriff's elections in California? That is, how many volunteers and donations can Hutchens count on from the huge majority of people who do not have CCWs?

                          Contrast that to the hundreds of people who are highly motivated to see her lose this election. Consider the man-hours and donations they're likely to put out there to campaign for a candidate they like better.

                          If the OC gunnies remain motivated and organized, Hutchens may have more of a problem facing her than she realizes.
                          She's off to a bad start if her hope is being re-elected. She alientated BOS. She is vulnerable. She thinks she back in LA.

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                          • #28
                            Glock22Fan
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2006
                            • 5752

                            Consider the man-hours and donations they're likely to put out there to campaign for a candidate they like better.
                            And if they have any sense, they will not mention (or they will play down) their candidate's good CCW intentions. They will promote him/her as being tough on crime, kisses babies, etc. etc. etc.
                            John -- bitter gun owner.

                            All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
                            I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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                            • #29
                              dustoff31
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 8209

                              Originally posted by Glock22Fan
                              And if they have any sense, they will not mention (or they will play down) their candidate's good CCW intentions. They will promote him/her as being tough on crime, kisses babies, etc. etc. etc.
                              Absolutely correct. Many forget that we are not only fighting the anti-gunners, but also the vast majority who don't think unless they are given things to think about.
                              "Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook Pegler

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                              • #30
                                M. D. Van Norman
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 4168

                                Matthew D. Van Norman
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