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  • mxpatriot51
    Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 332

    Expandable batons in California, who is exempt?

    I always thought they were illegal for anyone but LE, but I see on LA Police Gear's website they will sell to persons with a military ID.

    Can military legally possess them? I tried to find the law on that one, but couldn't.
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    sorensen440
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2007
    • 8611

    Cant some security gaurds possess them as well?
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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    • #3
      leelaw
      Junior Member
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 10445

      Sworn Peace Officers may. Security guards with a guard card, and expandable baton card may carry while on uniform patrol. I don't know about military, but I doubt it.
      Last edited by leelaw; 11-09-2008, 12:11 AM.

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      • #4
        mxpatriot51
        Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 332

        That's what I had heard previously, but LAPG will ship them if they get a copy of my military ID.

        I don't want something illegal, but if I can legally have it, I definitely want one.

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        • #5
          CSDGuy
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 3763

          I would imagine that Military, in the scope of their duties, would be able to possess and/or use batons, including expandable ones. I'd be surprised, however, if they'd be allowed "off-base" when not being used during an exercise.

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          • #6
            PonchoTA
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 2289

            What about the telescoping spring-type?

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            • #7
              JDay
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2008
              • 19393

              Originally posted by mxpatriot51
              That's what I had heard previously, but LAPG will ship them if they get a copy of my military ID.

              I don't want something illegal, but if I can legally have it, I definitely want one.
              The assumption is that you will be using it in your official duties.
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              • #8
                yellowfin
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2007
                • 8371

                I gather majorettes can buy them, as well.
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                Originally posted by indiandave
                In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
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                • #9
                  plm61
                  Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 170

                  Batons

                  I always thought they were illegal for anyone but LE, but I see on LA Police Gear's website they will sell to persons with a military ID.
                  I looked into this recently after a close call with a pit bull.

                  It is a misdemeanor for first time bust on carrying a concealed handgun. It is a felony for illegal possession of an expandable baton. Go figure.
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                  • #10
                    lehn20
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2355

                    Anyone can buy them. LAPG just decided to have less liability and require MIL/LEO/Security permits.

                    a concealed ASP in CA is a felony.

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                    • #11
                      bohoki
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 20758

                      i'm a bit confused

                      since baton=billyclub
                      also wrench-billyclub,baseball bat=billyclub,chunk of rebar=billyclub,crowbar=billyclub

                      is simple possession of an expandable baton in ones home a crime?

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                      • #12
                        DedEye
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 8655

                        Originally posted by bohoki
                        i'm a bit confused

                        since baton=billyclub
                        also wrench-billyclub,baseball bat=billyclub,chunk of rebar=billyclub,crowbar=billyclub

                        is simple possession of an expandable baton in ones home a crime?
                        To my understanding, yes. Possession is controlled, not just carrying.
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                        • #13
                          Dr. Strangelove
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 22

                          I'm sorry, I'm new to Calif. law. This thread is about the legality of purchasing what again? A stick that can get bigger if you want it to? Holy crap guys...

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                          • #14
                            JDay
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19393

                            Originally posted by plm61
                            I looked into this recently after a close call with a pit bull.

                            It is a misdemeanor for first time bust on carrying a concealed handgun. It is a felony for illegal possession of an expandable baton. Go figure.
                            It's also a felony for first time possession of a concealed knife.
                            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                            • #15
                              hawk81
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1489

                              You can own them, it is just some companies will not sell them to you. I carried one when I worked at the Fontana swap meet as a security guard, and I didn't even have a permit for one. It was ok, because it was private property. The owner didn't have a problem with it.

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