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  • #16
    Champagne-N-Beer
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 519

    Hi all. Do you guys carry your DROS copy and/or receipt showing you are legal owner with you at all times as well (range trips, etc) or do you not worry about those items?

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    • #17
      AP2
      Banned
      • Jan 2014
      • 728

      I drive to NorCal a few times a year and bring a few firearms to hit up local ranges. I don't bring any paperwork with me. What's legal in San Diego is legal in Paso Robles.

      When I travel to "free" states, same thing. Although I feel minuscule when I travel to AZ and dump 10 round mags while everyone else gets standard cap.

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      • #18
        bluesmoke9
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 815

        Originally posted by JoshuaS
        paranoia run amok
        I'm a retired police officer and I pretty much agree. While I'm sure there are a few legitimate bad endings to encounters with law enforcement, I also have to view it from my own personal experience. I usually have a gun with me. I drive as much as the next guy. And, strangely enough, I never get stopped. I literally have not been stopped by the police in about twenty years. My tags are current. All my lights work. I stop at stop signs and I pay attention to the speed limit and/or drive with the flow of traffic. Am I somehow exceptional in this regard? I don't think so. Add to that the average gun owner probably doesn't go to the range all that often. Some do obviously, but the majority don't. So, the few times you might have a gun in the car coupled with the unlikelyhood of you being stopped coupled with the fact that your gun is legal (I assume) and is properly stored in the trunk (out of sight) means having that really bad experience with the police is, statistically, like winning the lottery.
        I'm sure some will disagree and that's Ok. But unless you are somehow "improving" your chances of getting stopped or you drive around with a locked gun case next to you every day with a nice little sign on it that says: "I EXERCISE MY RIGHT NOT TO TELL YOU WHAT'S IN THIS LOCKED CASE" you're probably never, ever, going to be asked about guns by a police officer.
        If you buy anything because it has "tactical" or "operator" in the name, we probably don't run in the same circles.

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        • #19
          anthem
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 766

          Originally posted by bluesmoke9
          I'm a retired police officer and I pretty much agree. While I'm sure there are a few legitimate bad endings to encounters with law enforcement, I also have to view it from my own personal experience. I usually have a gun with me. I drive as much as the next guy. And, strangely enough, I never get stopped. I literally have not been stopped by the police in about twenty years. My tags are current. All my lights work. I stop at stop signs and I pay attention to the speed limit and/or drive with the flow of traffic. Am I somehow exceptional in this regard? I don't think so. Add to that the average gun owner probably doesn't go to the range all that often. Some do obviously, but the majority don't. So, the few times you might have a gun in the car coupled with the unlikelyhood of you being stopped coupled with the fact that your gun is legal (I assume) and is properly stored in the trunk (out of sight) means having that really bad experience with the police is, statistically, like winning the lottery.
          I'm sure some will disagree and that's Ok. But unless you are somehow "improving" your chances of getting stopped or you drive around with a locked gun case next to you every day with a nice little sign on it that says: "I EXERCISE MY RIGHT NOT TO TELL YOU WHAT'S IN THIS LOCKED CASE" you're probably never, ever, going to be asked about guns by a police officer.
          A logical and rationale response has no place here on Calguns.

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          • #20
            Lucky Scott
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 2603

            I always have a copy of the Calguns flowchart for my featureless showing legality.
            I also have a copy of a letter from the DOJ stating that an 80% lower is not illegal. I leave these documents in my AR gun case at all times.
            I also lock my gun cases, even rifle cases, just to be sure and to show that I am trying to be as careful as possible.

            Paranoid? No, just covering my ***.

            However, I would never travel with preban magazines with over 10 round capacity. I just dont trust LEO to recognize their legality. I would buy some legal 10 rounders and use them on the trip.

            I have found that is is easier and cheaper to stay out of trouble than to get out of trouble.

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            • #21
              cmichini
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 1739

              Originally posted by rman
              cool. i plan to hit san leandro rifle and pistol, last time i was there they seemed pretty laid back... although all i brought then were 3 pistols


              -Armand
              Sent from my Apple Galaxy Note 7
              Last I was there the only thing San Leandro was worried about was steel core ammo. Considering their outdoor range points right to the Oakland airport final approach, I don't blame them.

              Other than that, they've always been reasonable. Of course, I haven't been there since I moved to NC three years ago, so things could be different.
              NRA Certified Rifle Instructor
              NRA Certified Range Safety Officer

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              • #22
                rman
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 2267

                Originally posted by cmichini
                Last I was there the only thing San Leandro was worried about was steel core ammo. Considering their outdoor range points right to the Oakland airport final approach, I don't blame them.

                Other than that, they've always been reasonable. Of course, I haven't been there since I moved to NC three years ago, so things could be different.
                i gotta double check, but i think their outdoor range is shoot anything


                -Armand
                Sent from my Apple Galaxy Note 7

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                • #23
                  BKinzey
                  OT Banned
                  CGN Contributor
                  • May 2009
                  • 4390

                  Originally posted by cmichini
                  Last I was there the only thing San Leandro was worried about was steel core ammo. Considering their outdoor range points right to the Oakland airport final approach, I don't blame them.

                  Other than that, they've always been reasonable. Of course, I haven't been there since I moved to NC three years ago, so things could be different.
                  The reason I've heard for no steel core is fire hazard. What's the concern over the airport? Are they worried about bullets hitting the planes? So a .223 steel core is a no no but a 30.06 FMJ is OK? Of course I don't mention the ebil .50 BMG as we all know just the concussion can knock a 747 dangeously out of it's glide path.
                  Rogue American, Media Mercenary.
                  "A firearm is just a tool. Any tool can be used as a weapon, but the most powerful weapons were written."

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                  • #24
                    Full Clip
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 10260

                    I can see cops here using those videos justify their lust for surplus MRAPs and similar toys: "See, that's why we need them."

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                    • #25
                      Jimi Jah
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 17803

                      Long guns do not need to be in a locked case. Handguns do.

                      Now, what about a 7.5" AR pistol? Is that ok to have in a Wilson tennis bag or does it need to also be in a locked case like all other handguns?

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                      • #26
                        mej16489
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 2714

                        Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                        Long guns do not need to be in a locked case. Handguns do.

                        Now, what about a 7.5" AR pistol? Is that ok to have in a Wilson tennis bag or does it need to also be in a locked case like all other handguns?
                        Handguns must be transported in a 'secure locked container'

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                        • #27
                          YZINGERR
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 1567

                          Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                          Long guns do not need to be in a locked case. Handguns do.

                          Now, what about a 7.5" AR pistol? Is that ok to have in a Wilson tennis bag or does it need to also be in a locked case like all other handguns?
                          I dont see why that would not be legal.
                          the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
                          -PUBLIC LAND OWNER-

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                          • #28
                            pdsmith505
                            Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 198

                            This reminds me of that scene in The Hunt For Red October:

                            Capt. Vasili Borodin: I will live in Montana. And I will marry a round American woman and raise rabbits, and she will cook them for me. And I will have a pickup truck... maybe even a "recreational vehicle." And drive from state to state. Do they let you do that?
                            Captain Ramius: I suppose.
                            Capt. Vasili Borodin: No papers?
                            Captain Ramius: No papers, state to state.
                            Capt. Vasili Borodin: Well then, in winter I will live in... Arizona. Actually, I think I will need two wives.
                            Captain Ramius: Oh, at least.

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                            • #29
                              Jimi Jah
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 17803

                              Originally posted by mej16489
                              Handguns must be transported in a 'secure locked container'

                              https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...53&postcount=5
                              Has that phrase ever been nailed down? Metal or hard plastic box, bag with lockable zipper, rifle case with lockable zippers?

                              Easy for handguns, there are small lockable metal boxes. AR pistols seem to not have that many choices.

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                              • #30
                                mej16489
                                Veteran Member
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 2714

                                Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                                Has that phrase ever been nailed down? Metal or hard plastic box, bag with lockable zipper, rifle case with lockable zippers?

                                Easy for handguns, there are small lockable metal boxes. AR pistols seem to not have that many choices.
                                No, but the generally accepted standard on the forum tends to be something along the lines of, 'can a 10 year old with no tools get to the gun'

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