Road Trip w/ Firearms - What Paperwork?

[rman]

Hi All,

I'll be driving from SoCal to NorCal, and wondering what paperwork I should keep with my firearms to eliminate any hassle while traveling, or at ranges. Links to penal codes, etc., would be especially helpful.

Anything I can show regarding:

80% AR Pistol
Pre-Ban mags
Featureless Builds

Thanks guys!

[YZINGERR]

Heck, if you are coming from ca to any other state...you already know that your guns are legal there!
Warning: your plugged up guns may get laughed at by the locals!

Within CA, you should be good as long as you transport in a case, locked, no loaded mags, etc...

[rman]

im more concerned about being questioned (at the range, etc) about my featureless ak or my ar pistol....

ill strap my thinking cap on later and do some searching...

i figure i should print

calguns flow chart (featureless build)
PC on home builds (80% ar pistol
PC on standard mags (all my pre-ban)


-Armand
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[taperxz]

im more concerned about being questioned (at the range, etc) about my featureless ak or my ar pistol....

ill strap my thinking cap on later and do some searching...

i figure i should print

calguns flow chart (featureless build)
PC on home builds (80% ar pistol
PC on standard mags (all my pre-ban)


-Armand
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I'm having a hard time understanding what you are talking about. What you own in Socal is legal in Nor Cal unless what you have is illegal in CA. Why are you asking this? Its the same state!

[rman]

lol i know. what i am trying to avoid are the horror stories that i read about when AR pistols are being (wrongly) confiscated, people being hassled about their featureless builds, etc.

the only reason i mention travel is because i am comfortable (err, comlacent) here at home and have never even so much as been looked at twice with my firearms. Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

but im paranoid that more liberal bay area cities with overzealous LE that dont know the laws could possible hassle me. thats all.

i hear of people who keep these printouts in their gun bags, range bags, etc.
just trying to do the same and what better time than when i travel to rainbow land


-Armand
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[raven290]

You'll be fine. Just stay out of Sunnyvale with your preban mags. Featureless and 80% rifles are just as common up here as they are in the south.

[rman]

cool. i plan to hit san leandro rifle and pistol, last time i was there they seemed pretty laid back... although all i brought then were 3 pistols


-Armand
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[Armando de la Guerra]

My opinion is Low Profile. Stealth. They don't have xray vision.

Hey, you asked.

[taperxz]

You are in socal and worried about norcal? You have a better chance of getting busted for nothing down there than up here! Most of the pro 2A sheriffs are up here. Socal sucks for 2A rights! Up here its at least tolerant. Unless you go to San Francisco.

[rman]

For each and every rifle case and handgun case I do the following:


1. First off - though not required for long guns - I lock all my cases. That is my physical statement that I do not consent to a search.

2. One copy of the DOJ / AG transportation guidelines summary:

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

I fold this OUTWARD...


3. One copy of the CHP webpage that recognizes transport of loaded magazine NOT in the firearm:

http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/answers.html

Section is highlighted in yellow - I fold it INWARD.


4. I wrap the folded OUTWARD DOJ / AG document over the folded INWARD CHP document - and secure with one paper clip on each side.

5. Slipped under one paperclip is the business card of an attorney.


The reason I fold and wrap that way is to FORCE the CHP to read their own document. By hiding it folded inward, the question they're forced to answer is:

"What's this?"

...and that question gets answered and they can't deny being informed that loaded magazines without insertion into the firearm is okay.

=8-)

This document package is made for each and every case whether I use the case or not. I replace them yearly...

=8-)

awesome, thanks!


-Armand
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[JoshuaS]

paranoia run amok

[Armando de la Guerra]

For each and every rifle case and handgun case I do the following:


1. First off - though not required for long guns - I lock all my cases. That is my physical statement that I do not consent to a search.

2. One copy of the DOJ / AG transportation guidelines summary:

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel

I fold this OUTWARD...


3. One copy of the CHP webpage that recognizes transport of loaded magazine NOT in the firearm:

http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/answers.html

Section is highlighted in yellow - I fold it INWARD.


4. I wrap the folded OUTWARD DOJ / AG document over the folded INWARD CHP document - and secure with one paper clip on each side.

5. Slipped under one paperclip is the business card of an attorney.


The reason I fold and wrap that way is to FORCE the CHP to read their own document. By hiding it folded inward, the question they're forced to answer is:

"What's this?"

...and that question gets answered and they can't deny being informed that loaded magazines without insertion into the firearm is okay.

=8-)

This document package is made for each and every case whether I use the case or not. I replace them yearly...

=8-)

Great. Only problem is that if you're in the situation where you have to present all that stuff, you've done something that has put you on the side of the road in front of a police car. And the cop is not going to deal with your paperwork. He's going to arrest you, impound your car, and let the judge figure it out.

[YZINGERR]

You are in socal and worried about norcal? You have a better chance of getting busted for nothing down there than up here! Most of the pro 2A sheriffs are up here. Socal sucks for 2A rights! Up here its at least tolerant. Unless you go to San Francisco.

+1 to a 'T'!

Great. Only problem is that if you're in the situation where you have to present all that stuff, you've done something that has put you on the side of the road in front of a police car. And the cop is not going to deal with your paperwork. He's going to arrest you, impound your car, and let the judge figure it out.

I agree, BUT it certainly cant hurt to have it.

[rman]

You are in socal and worried about norcal? You have a better chance of getting busted for nothing down there than up here! Most of the pro 2A sheriffs are up here. Socal sucks for 2A rights! Up here its at least tolerant. Unless you go to San Francisco.

i guess the difference is i am more familiar and at home in san diego

paranoia run amok

meh, all the threads up here got me thinking. would rather be prepared with something




-Armand
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[rman]

granted, these are all worst case scenarios.... sadly they are real life scenarios as well for a small few - any of which can be any calgunner.

Maybe it's just piece of mind I'm seeking... in the chance I am in a situation where I'm being questioned regarding my legal belongings by someone who doesn't necessarily know the law.

In the interim, I'd like to avoid being in that situation altogether.