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Peņa v. Cid (Handgun Roster) **CERT DENIED 6-15-2020**

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  • jcwatchdog
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 2570

    Originally posted by FirearmFino
    Based on when cert was granted, it should be one of the first cases heard during the next term, which starts in October.

    Last year, oral arguments for October were announced in July.

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    • FirearmFino
      Member
      • Apr 2019
      • 428

      5/7 is the due date for petitioners' brief that NYC is trying to push back, so we should hear from the court before then. However, their decision on NYC's motion probably won't include the date of the oral arguments.

      If the case doesn't get mooted, oral arguments will likely take place in October (with the exact date released at some point before that).

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      • Uncivil Engineer
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2016
        • 1101

        I like your thinking here but I fear it will be just more delay. We might see SCOTUS provide us a new test from the NY case then send Pena back down to the ninth. I have no confidence the ninth will properly apply any test. So once again we will back at SCOTUS. Hopefully, we will get our judges so pissed they will send down an even harsher test.

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        • aBrowningfan
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 1475

          Originally posted by FirearmFino
          5/7 is the due date for petitioners' brief that NYC is trying to push back, so we should hear from the court before then. However, their decision on NYC's motion probably won't include the date of the oral arguments.

          If the case doesn't get mooted, oral arguments will likely take place in October (with the exact date released at some point before that).
          Why/how would the case get mooted? Do you see NYC revoking the current law? Or?

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          • CCWFacts
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2007
            • 6168

            Originally posted by aBrowningfan
            Why/how would the case get mooted? Do you see NYC revoking the current law? Or?
            They workin on it.
            I write to advise the Court of a proposed rulemaking. If adopted in accordance with established procedures, the proposed rule would render this case moot before the parties complete the merits briefing in this case. For this reason, I also write to request that the Court stay the current briefing schedule pending final action on the proposed rule.
            "Weakness is provocative."
            Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

            Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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            • sfpcservice
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 1879

              Originally posted by CCWFacts
              They workin on it.
              I write to advise the Court of a proposed rulemaking. If adopted in accordance with established procedures, the proposed rule would render this case moot before the parties complete the merits briefing in this case. For this reason, I also write to request that the Court stay the current briefing schedule pending final action on the proposed rule.
              This is call running scared because we thought Hillary was going to pick supreme Court justices.
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              John 14:6

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              • Paladin
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2005
                • 12378

                Originally posted by FirearmFino
                Based on when cert was granted, it should be one of the first cases heard during the next term, which starts in October.

                Last year, oral arguments for October were announced in July.
                July 9th 2018, when they did that, was the 2nd Monday in July. This year that will be July 8th. https://www.scotusblog.com/events/2019-07/

                Last edited by Paladin; 04-28-2019, 4:49 PM.
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                • Paladin
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 12378

                  More nothing in re. Pena....

                  Order list: https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/...19zor_f2q3.pdf
                  Last edited by Paladin; 04-29-2019, 6:50 AM.
                  240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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                  • NorCalRT
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 1327

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                    • Califpatriot
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 2438

                      What denial?
                      In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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                      • ajb78
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 1441

                        Originally posted by Califpatriot
                        What denial?


                        Originally posted by Paladin
                        SCOTUS denies NYC motion to delay briefings!

                        Order list: https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/...19zor_f2q3.pdf

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                        • CCWFacts
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2007
                          • 6168

                          Originally posted by Califpatriot
                          What denial?
                          NY STATE RIFLE & PISTOL, ET AL. V. NEW YORK, NY, ET AL. The motion of respondents to hold the briefing schedule in abeyance is denied.

                          If I'm reading that correctly, NY requested that everything be put on hold until it can remove the law and moot the case. Supreme Court denied that motion. That's good, it means that NY's last minute plans to say, "hey guys, we were just joking, let's forget the whole thing" isn't going to work.
                          "Weakness is provocative."
                          Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

                          Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.

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                          • NorCalRT
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 1327

                            Originally posted by CCWFacts
                            NY STATE RIFLE & PISTOL, ET AL. V. NEW YORK, NY, ET AL. The motion of respondents to hold the briefing schedule in abeyance is denied.

                            If I'm reading that correctly, NY requested that everything be put on hold until it can remove the law and moot the case. Supreme Court denied that motion. That's good, it means that NY's last minute plans to say, "hey guys, we were just joking, let's forget the whole thing" isn't going to work.
                            I agree, it comes across as good for us. I take it as SCOTUS is working on a 2A ruling, and holding others till it is published. I could easily be wrong, and even if right the ruling could not be one we want. But I feel optimistic.

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                            • Smedkcuf
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 505

                              Originally posted by NorCalRT
                              I agree, it comes across as good for us. I take it as SCOTUS is working on a 2A ruling, and holding others till it is published. I could easily be wrong, and even if right the ruling could not be one we want. But I feel optimistic.
                              Do they have any constraints that their ruling has to relate to that case in some way? If so I don't see how the roster case has much to do with that case

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                              • NorCalRT
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 1327

                                If scotus says use strict scrutiny for 2A cases, as some people are thinking they might, then it will. They could send the roster case back to the 9th telling them to use strict scrutiny.

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