Peņa v. Cid (Handgun Roster) **CERT DENIED 6-15-2020**

[Colt]

So it includes the shoulder thing that goes up?

[CandG]

This just in: the 9th circuit has ruled that the state of California's list of "approved words that may be spoken", and the prison sentences for speaking off-list words, is definitely not a violation of the 1st amendment.

[CandG]

So it includes the shoulder thing that goes up?

You're thinking of the assault weapon ban, not the handgun roster. The assault weapon ban is what prohibits shoulder things that go up.

[pacrat]

2A rights have been incrementally denied by the legislature over several decades.

In order to UNDO the 2A damage done over those decades. We as citizens must now INCREMENTALLY UNDO all that harm.

It's not an all or nothing battle.

[ronlglock]

Annnnndddddd this is why we keep losing. Need to donate FOR the win.


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[selfshrevident]

Re-listed is a good sign. They typically do not take a case without relisting it first.

I forget, but was the NYSRPA case re-listed or did they take it on the first go? (srs question)

[HowardW56]

How are the lawsuits and appeals to be filed without funding?

[Ubermcoupe]

I forget, but was the NYSRPA case re-listed or did they take it on the first go? (srs question)

Distributed for conference twice:

https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/new-york-state-rifle-pistol-association-inc-v-city-of-new-york-new-york/

[selfshrevident]

Distributed for conference twice:

https://www.scotusblog.com/case-file...york-new-york/

Nice. I just remember back in the day seeing every significant 2A case get before the SCOTUS, only to be re-listed a dozen times before getting rejected. Those were disappointing times.

[taperxz]

Reverse and remand would be nice

[HowardW56]

Nice. I just remember back in the day seeing every significant 2A case get before the SCOTUS, only to be re-listed a dozen times before getting rejected. Those were disappointing times.

That is possible this time too. SCOTUS receives hundreds upon hundreds of Cert Petitions, and grants a relative few...

[HowardW56]

Reverse and remand would be nice

GVR would be just fine, not that I think it is likely....

[bruss01]

During all these re-listings, they are reminding each other of the case.

Don't think they don't think about these things, just the way you and I think about work issues even off the clock.

There are countless water-cooler conversations, remarks, aides talking among themselves and other subtle ways of the Justice's inclinations on a case leaking out. If they think they've got 5 votes for a decision they think they can live with... they may vote for the case to be heard. If the tendrils come back with "we've got four and a half, very mushy, lots of compromise required to get the fifth vote" - then it's a different story. Believe me, in that latter case, they're doing us a favor long term as well as the rest of the country and all our future descendants.

I'd prefer they turn the case down for hearing if, in order to get that 5th vote, they have to dilute it to the point of presenting a "Solomon's Solution" (cutting the baby in half to satisfy a parentage dispute). The real mother cries out "NO! Give her the baby." - preferring her child to be raised by a lying stranger than to be killed outright. If you care about the 2A, you'd cry out "NO!" on hearing a case where the decision might end up getting the 2nd Amendment neutered.

[meanspartan]

Being re-listed isn't really a "win" except that it wasn't denied right?

Every case that isn't denied, or granted cert, or remanded with instructions, gets re-listed, right?

[taperxz]

GVR would be just fine, not that I think it is likely....

So, my reason for thinking this is possible is because it is a blatantly violation of Heller, (Dick Hellers gun could not be sold new in California) plus the Roster of Handguns is very unique to California