NAGR v. San Jose [ORAL Arguments set for , see post #134]

[robertfchew]

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That's how I feel now. I no longer agree with any gun laws. Criminals that want them already have them so why are we creating more infringements that only punish good people? Also no politician should be given armed protection since 99% of them are anti gun. They need to start living by their own supposed beliefs.

[abinsinia]

Motion to dismiss was partial granted partly denied,

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.391018/gov.uscourts.cand.391018.81.0.pdf

most of it was dismissed, but she gave leave to amend on most it also.

[Foothills]

Photos and upload...

did you just take pictures and that was it ?

Yes, you can take pictures with your phone and upload them to the DMV web site for Real ID. Then that team pre-approves the documents. When you come into the office, the clerk doesn't second-guess the pre approval, they just verify that the documents are the same.

Take your picture and you're on your way.

[Foothills]

FIFY
Outside of maybe haggling over price, eight minutes seems kind of long if simply exchanging consideration (money) for a product (gun) that is being legally sold by one party to another. Such a transaction should take mere moments.

Yes, I'm sure that black-market sales between gang members are very efficient as you describe.

I've decided that I don't mind that a person I sell something to passed a basic background check.

The point is that the Real ID uses the SAME documents as a PPT Dros, and it completed much more efficiently. Merely comparing the efficiency of two processes.

[Texas Boy]

Did anyone else see this, San Jose City council approved fines up to $1000 for non compliance with their gun insurance and gun owner fees. https://www.kron4.com/news/gun-owner...ese-big-fines/

Slightly off topic, but on a more positive note, anyone remember when Kevin De Leon was in the Senate pushing all kinds of anti gun hate? Nice to see he is showing his true colors and the chickens are coming home to roost! https://youtu.be/jtgp2LSULg4

[SilverBandit]

It was also in yesterdays SJ Mercury News - I didn't get a chance to read yet

[Lanejsl]

Does anyone know what's happening with the court case? It it getting appealed?

[abinsinia]

Does anyone know what's happening with the court case? It it getting appealed?

I posted an update in #47 .. The case is still happening, but parts of it got dismissed.

[Silence Dogood]

Yes, I'm sure that black-market sales between gang members are very efficient as you describe.

I've decided that I don't mind that a person I sell something to passed a basic background check.

The point is that the Real ID uses the SAME documents as a PPT Dros, and it completed much more efficiently. Merely comparing the efficiency of two processes.

The point is that the position you are taking is a factor of and of benefit solely to

[Foothills]

Buying a hammer at the hardware store requires no paperwork and is not constitutionally protected, though hammers kill Americans every year. It is not black market. It is free market.

Yes, I know someone who was murdered with a hammer.

I also know domestic violence victims and victims of muggings.

This is not an abstract theory for me.

If I'm selling a firearm, I'm going to feel much better if the purchaser passes a background check.

[taperxz]

Yes, I know someone who was murdered with a hammer.

I also know domestic violence victims and victims of muggings.

This is not an abstract theory for me.

If I'm selling a firearm, I'm going to feel much better if the purchaser passes a background check.

[Offwidth]

If I'm selling a firearm, I'm going to feel much better if the purchaser passes a background check.

Your feelings don't prevent anything.

[Thoughts]

If I'm selling a firearm, I'm going to feel much better if the purchaser passes a background check.

You're free to put it on consignment at an FFL. Doesn't that lead to a mandatory background check?

[Redeyedrider]

Yes, I know someone who was murdered with a hammer.

......

If I'm selling a firearm, I'm going to feel much better if the purchaser passes a background check.

So from this we should deduce that you are in favor of background checks to buy hammers???

[curtisfong]

So from this we should deduce that you are in favor of background checks to buy hammers???

If something makes him feel better, clearly it is a required law.