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  • TruOil
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2017
    • 1921

    Originally posted by abinsinia

    It's addressed in the following entries,

    Entry #4
    Entry #9
    Entry #46

    #4 stay requested, #9 stay was granted, #46 stay reversed.
    My keyboard has developed an aversion to typing 5s, 6s, 7s and 8s. That should have been Entry 46. With no stay in place, the 1 in 30 rule is presently unenforceable.

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    • Elgatodeacero
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 1274

      9th Circuit strikes down 1-30 gun rationing law.

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      • abinsinia
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2015
        • 4031

        now we wait for the inevitable En Banc request.

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        • Elgatodeacero
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2015
          • 1274

          Probably, but I predict the request for en banc hearing will be denied.

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          • abinsinia
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 4031

            The opinion also makes AB-1078 (i.e. 3 guns a month) illegal. The opinion never says anything other than "multiple guns". I think it also makes 1-in-30 on PPT illegal.

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            • garand1945
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 776

              Big win. We continue to chip away at gun bans. Too slowly but we still can celebrate this. Kudos to all who made this possible.

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              • Sputnik
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 2094

                Originally posted by Elgatodeacero
                Probably, but I predict the request for en banc hearing will be denied.
                But that’ll ruin their “perfect†record on the 2nd. Can they live with that?

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                • Dvrjon
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 11209

                  Originally posted by abinsinia
                  The opinion also makes AB-1078 (i.e. 3 guns a month) illegal. The opinion never says anything other than "multiple guns". I think it also makes 1-in-30 on PPT illegal.
                  I agree…from the ruling.

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                  “Metering†the exercise of constitutional rights and the lack of a cousin for the 1-in-30. I doubt they’ll find traction for en banc or for the 3-in-30.
                  Last edited by Dvrjon; 06-21-2025, 8:36 AM.

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                  • The Gleam
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 11036

                    Essentially, this could also kill the restriction of the number of PPT sales per year of being limited to 6 as it resembles the same common perspective. Hoping it does.

                    So long as it's law-abiding, what difference does it make.

                    I realize there is an impression on the limitation of sales by frequency as to not also be considered a dealer buying and flipping guns in high volume, regarding the way ATF sees it, however, if it took me 40 years to accumulate 400 firearms, and I'm in my early 80s, with maybe 5 to 10 years to live, how could I ever legally sell them within that time without resorting to someone else having their hand in the pot? (an auction house, gun store, etc.).

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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • ProfChaos
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2021
                      • 942



                      "The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia." -George Orwell 1984

                      1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a "How To" guide.

                      Time magazine bragging about how they stole the election: https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

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                      • riderr
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 6207

                        Originally posted by The Gleam
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                        I realize there is an impression on the limitation of sales by frequency as to not also be considered a dealer buying and flipping guns in high volume, regarding the way ATF sees it,
                        If you could run PPT in the shady parking lot with no papers, the limitation hawks could probably bring it up. However, you transfer the guns through FFL, with all the necessary (and not) background checks, paperwork, fees, etc. What difference does it make if you have your own FFL license or not? That doesn't make any sense to me, really.
                        Why in the hell I can't sell my own property without the government hassle?

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                        • The Gleam
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 11036

                          Originally posted by riderr
                          If you could run PPT in the shady parking lot with no papers, the limitation hawks could probably bring it up. However, you transfer the guns through FFL, with all the necessary (and not) background checks, paperwork, fees, etc. What difference does it make if you have your own FFL license or not? That doesn't make any sense to me, really.
                          Why in the hell I can't sell my own property without the government hassle?
                          I agree - but THAT is NEVER going to materialize in California, so it's a wasted talking point. Focusing on what is as is when fighting such bills at hand requires staying within that as is frame.

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                          Originally posted by Librarian
                          What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                          If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                          • The Gleam
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 11036

                            Originally posted by abinsinia
                            The opinion also makes AB-1078 (i.e. 3 guns a month) illegal. The opinion never says anything other than "multiple guns". I think it also makes 1-in-30 on PPT illegal.
                            The fact that they are trying to put forth a 3-gun per month concession as an alternative to the 1-gun per month tyranny, proves they full well know that any such limit has no merit, for any reason they concoct, and guts their arguments entirely.

                            Goldilocks nonsense.

                            Whether I buy 1, 3, or 30 guns per month implies nothing about criminality, application, intention, or use any different than the fact I have 9 cars, and 2 of which I bought in the same month as each other - with a perfect driving record and no accidents in over 25 years. Haven't used any to rob a liquor store or intentionally run down any anti-ICE obstuctionists and insurectionists... yet.

                            If I buy 5 gallons of gas or 50 gallons of gas at the same stop, I only need a pint of gas to burn down a school or make a Molotov cocktail - so are they going to limit me to 1 pint of gas a month?

                            The justifications were always outrageous stupidity.


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                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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