Renna v Bonta - US Dist Ct So Cal, 11/2020 (Roster: PI granted and stayed 3-31-23)

[Bestguns]

The Plaintiffs’ Opposition fried the Defendants’ Motion.

[steelrain82]

This part really stood out to me,

Surely, “we would never sanction governmental banning of allegedly
‘inflammatory’ views expressed in Daily Kos or Breitbart on the grounds that the people
can still read the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal.” Id. at 1159-60.

Except now they do. The government has allowed "platforms" to ban "inflammatory views" because there are other options to get those views. Then the government allows those options to be banned as well (Parler).

[Bhobbs]

Your mistake is assuming they care about the eventual outcome. What they care about is the *perception* that they are fighting. They want to be able to (plausibly) say they did all they could. To that end, expect them to fight to the bitter end, even it means to their (apparent) detriment.

Now, a chess player (or anyone else very good at competition, or even an AI) would see that deviation from optimal play as a weakness, and exploit it fully. Full steam ahead.

[curtisfong]

Your mistake is assuming they will lose at SCOTUS.

You totally misunderstood my post then.

I have zero confidence in any positive outcome, ever.

[johnireland]

More specifically it's the 9th circuit that needs the overhaul. Even with 29 active judges we cannot get cases done in a timely manner. The 9th circuit needs to be split up.

What about the old saying, "Justice delayed is justice denied." Or a fair and speedy trial. Can't that be used to force the court to do its job?

[abinsinia]

Should we contact the lawyers for this case to let them know Microstamping was removed from the criteria for the roster till July 2022 ?

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1696504

[BaronW]

IMO it doesn’t really affect this case - the status quo will be restored 7/1/22 which is basically tomorrow on the geological timescale of litigation.

[CandG]

IMO it doesn’t really affect this case - the status quo will be restored 7/1/22 which is basically tomorrow on the geological timescale of litigation.

Yep... it's like saying "The restraining order request is moot because the husband promised he would stop beating his wife until after December 31st"

[Paladin]

MOTION TO DISMISS; MEMORANDUM OF POINTS AND AUTHORITIES

[pacrat]

OK........................THREE WEEKS THEN!

[bwiese]

Update - Progress! Intermediate scrutiny found wanting...

Article:

https://www.courthousenews.com/gun-lobby-challenge-to-california-handgun-roster-advances/?fbclid=IwAR1A9caSzGmpAsZyNBC9VLzCadKNVSxnK52LhRDU8mJ8N4sz8-rb-cPeZK4

Decision:

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/CalifHandgunRoster-mtdORDER.pdf

foundfound the law did not infringe

[IVC]

How would you assess it overall?

Count two and parts of count 1 are dismissed, which changes the challenge moving forward. What are the next steps?

[bwiese]

How would you assess it overall?

Count two and parts of count 1 are dismissed, which changes the challenge moving forward. What are the next steps?

We'll have to see, but the fact we can go forward and that intermediate scrutiny fails on 2A is the big thing.

[M60A1Rise]

https://www.firearmspolicy.org/federal-judge-allows-fpc-lawsuit-against-california-handgun-roster-ban-to-move-forward

[1911-CV]

Renna v Becerra - Federal Judge Reject AB 2847 - 3 removal for 1 roster add

See article here