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Miller v. Bonta 9th Ckt "assault weapons": Held for Duncan result 1-26-24

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  • Hinnerk
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 779

    It is interesting that many news headlines are describing this ruling as overturning a "three decades old ban" but ignoring the fact that the AR-15 was decades old when the ban was begun. Misleaders will mislead.

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    • Colt
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 1596

      Originally posted by Jesse C.
      While this is great news, the fight is not over. We have to keep hammering these bastards until they leave us alone.

      And also, please do not wear an Orange Shirt! SD Mayor Super Cuck just asked people to wear orange to show their support for gun control! So F him and his crew!
      Would love to see a bunch of politicians wearing orange jumpsuits...

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      • Syntax Error
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 3817

        Originally posted by Hinnerk
        It is interesting that many news headlines are describing this ruling as overturning a "three decades old ban" but ignoring the fact that the AR-15 was decades old when the ban was begun. Misleaders will mislead.
        It's always about maintaining the narrative when it comes to the fake corporate media. The talking point distributed is how the AWB is "decades-old" as if that somehow validates the constitutionality of the law, when Benitez was very clear that age of the law is irrelevant when it comes to the question of whether or not the law was constitutional in the first place.

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        • Uncivil Engineer
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 1101

          Yikes new Newsome sounds like an idiot. The 'how dare he compare a swiss army knife with a gun'. Uh it has army in the name.

          And how does Boneta get a pass on claiming AW cause more harm and break more laws than other weapons? Just looking at gun homicides handguns are still used almost exclusively while AW are almost never used in violent crime. Allowing him to get away with these out right lies is why we lose votes. Someone needs a press releases to counter these lies.

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          • M76
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2014
            • 5954



            Buck Fonta!
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            Originally posted by dunndeal
            Stop digging.
            Originally posted by BrassCase
            I only buy fireworks from Three Finger Willie over at One Eyed Jack's Fireworks.
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            • jcwatchdog
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 2571

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              • ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 56948

                Originally posted by jok5tr
                Suppose Benitez’s ruling holds, how would this affect BBRAWs?
                Would it be possible to remove the BBs? Thanks.
                The whole basis of not being able to remove BB's is that the DOJ would consider that manufacturing and that the newly manufactured gun would be an illegal AW.
                If you remove all the AW definitions and restrictions, BB's can absolutely come off.

                Let the DOJ consider them a new firearm.
                Won't matter because there won't be any laws that make the NEW firearm illegal anymore so the DOJ loses it's teeth.
                Randall Rausch

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                • igs
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 941

                  "Because this case involves serious questions going to the merits, a temporary stay is in the public interest. This declaration and permanent injunction are stayed for 30 days during which time the Attorney General may appeal and seek a stay from the Court of Appeals."

                  We are being trolled.
                  ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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                  • GregW948
                    Member
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 449

                    Originally posted by Uncivil Engineer
                    Yikes new Newsome sounds like an idiot. The 'how dare he compare a swiss army knife with a gun'. Uh it has army in the name.

                    And how does Boneta get a pass on claiming AW cause more harm and break more laws than other weapons? Just looking at gun homicides handguns are still used almost exclusively while AW are almost never used in violent crime. Allowing him to get away with these out right lies is why we lose votes. Someone needs a press releases to counter these lies.
                    Can you believe he rolled this weeks lotto in person... even the libs are like shaking their heads on YT...

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                    • GregW948
                      Member
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 449

                      Benitez is Cuban... way way way way different mindset than our common Hispanic from Mexico...

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                      • ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 56948

                        Originally posted by Bhobbs
                        I think antis would take permitted carry over no assault weapons any day of the week.
                        It's not looking so good for them with the trend heading towards unpermitted carry lately just like everything went to shall issue 25 years ago...

                        Randall Rausch

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                        • CaliforniaCowboy
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 1469

                          So, when can I throw a pistol grip on my AR?
                          https://thedeplorablepatriot.com/

                          "A Holocaust survivor dies of old age, when he gets to heaven he tells God a Holocaust joke. God says, That isn't funny. The Old man tells God, well, I guess you had to be there."

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                          • SWalt
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 8117

                            Originally posted by ir0nclash86
                            Ha HA!! Newsome be mad!

                            Eat a bag of dicks Newsome!
                            ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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                            CRPA 5 yr Member

                            "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

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                            • Bronco
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 53

                              Originally posted by Casoobaru
                              Just being realistic. Look at how things have progressed. I'd love to be wrong but I just don't have the energy to pretend it's going to be some big win for our 2a rights.
                              This.

                              Unless the SCOTUS grows some balls, this ruling means f<?! all.
                              Semper Fi,
                              Bill

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                              DAV Life Member

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                              • ar15barrels
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 56948

                                Maybe you don't understand that nothing changed today so there are no "newly legal" firearms or parts.
                                Everything stays as it was yesterday for the next 30 days and that will get longer when the state gets a more permanent stay while the case goes to the 9th circus.
                                Randall Rausch

                                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
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                                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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