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  • riderr
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2013
    • 6550

    I am sure Benitez very carefully chose the dates. It will be the Independence Day in exactly 31 day since this decision. Tell me it was a coincidence.

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    • riderr
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2013
      • 6550

      Originally posted by CaliforniaCowboy
      So, when can I throw a pistol grip on my AR?
      Provided CA doesn't appeal, you may legally do it on the 4th of July. Well, we all know CA will appeal and ultimately win it in en-banc

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      • ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 56983

        Originally posted by Mendo223
        Amy "RAW"s have F-ing bullet buttons and are still limited to 10 round SMFH.....
        News flash:
        Your RAW's can use mags over 10 rounds.
        The 10 round restriction only applies to fixed magazine guns which are NOT RAW's.
        Randall Rausch

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        • sonofeugene
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 4296

          I've got a nice pistol grip to throw on my gun if it becomes legal. Takes about 2 minutes.
          Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

          A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

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          • ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 56983

            Originally posted by CaliforniaCowboy
            So, when can I throw a pistol grip on my AR?
            As soon as we win in the US supreme court.
            Don't hold your breath for anything solid in the next 5 years or so.
            Randall Rausch

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            • CAsubject
              Member
              • Aug 2017
              • 142

              While Benitez's ruling was solid as usual, I don't understand giving California any "good" will with the stay. We only needed five minutes and a repeat of what happened with the mags.

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              • zuverza
                Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 258

                Originally posted by GregW948
                Benitez is Cuban... way way way way different mindset than our common Hispanic from Mexico...
                What kind lf mindset is that? That Cubans have it all given to them because they live under commies? Political refugees?

                Is this mindset different because they like black beans and mexicans like pinto beans?

                Is your mindset that of a common hokie or redneck?

                I love my firearms and the constitution that protects my capacity to own such machinery. But having to share the perception that im linked to intolerant xenophobes can feel just icky.

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                • The Gleam
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 11650

                  Because the deep-dive representatives of that demeanor are actually despot shills, and DON'T want it going this way.

                  Their motivation here is to type sweet "nothings" in our ears.
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                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                  If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                  • guntrust
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                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 796

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                    • The Gleam
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 11650

                      Originally posted by Casoobaru
                      Yeah it seems cool but sadly this is going to do absolutely nothing. Scotus won't take the case, California doesn't care about ethics, or the constitution. Our governor is a one man government. People popping popcorn now are downright delusional.
                      Originally posted by Bhobbs
                      It's not pessimism, it's realism. The 9th is anti gun and nothing has changed. Sure, a few wins here or there might squeak out but the "ultra rare" en banc will always pop up to crush them. It's going to be years before AWs are settled and even then, there's nothing to keep anti gun courts from just continuing to do what they want.
                      Originally posted by GregW948
                      Not happy at all... It doesn't matter.. filthy rat bum commie judges will interfere...
                      Originally posted by Bronco
                      This.

                      Unless the SCOTUS grows some balls, this ruling means f<?! all.
                      Some seem just a little too excited, maybe even ecstatic by their derisive-laden contemplation, and back it with vitriol.

                      Odd.

                      I'm all for "guarded optimism" as SWalt noted, and being realistic is one thing, whereby you do so to develop strategy; but gloating in a nihilistic sludge to the point of being damned near orgasmic when there is some conjecture and adversity in which to point, and go "AH HAH!" over it, makes me wonder of shills and losers that can't help themselves to do nothing but machinate with disdain, when something looks to be positive, even against further odds and hurdles.

                      Because they actually want it to be that way?

                      Why help perpetuate the other side's demeanor and agenda at all? Why KEEP returning to continue to denounce and push defeat?

                      What purpose does that empty cynicism serve?
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                      Originally posted by Librarian
                      What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                      If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                      • Transient
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2020
                        • 792

                        Originally posted by SWalt
                        Tag
                        You're it

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                        • Transient
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2020
                          • 792

                          Originally posted by Jesse C.
                          While this is great news, the fight is not over. We have to keep hammering these bastards until they leave us alone.

                          And also, please do not wear an Orange Shirt! SD Mayor Super Cuck just asked people to wear orange to show their support for gun control! So F him and his crew!
                          I'm in SD. I'll wear a scary black featureless shirt with high capacity sleeves. It'll be tagless to scare all those hoplophobic estrogen-filled betas. Oh the number of nightmares that'll cause me to grin like a grinch stealing Christmas.

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                          • Transient
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2020
                            • 792

                            Originally posted by SWalt
                            A lot of us have been down this road before only to watch cases denied by the SCOTUS. Guarded optimism is how I would describe it. Now its just a waiting game. I have no doubt the stay will be in place until the 9th Circus issues a ruling. Until then I will just marvel at our luck of having the Honorable Judge Roger T. Benitez rule on this case.
                            I was in Highland Park, IL for the disappointing cert denial by SCOTUS in Friedman v Highland Park. I understand your pain.

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                            • curtisfong
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 6893

                              Originally posted by The Gleam
                              What purpose does that empty cynicism serve?
                              You really don't understand why people *naturally* expect the worst? It should be obvious to you.
                              The Rifle on the WallKamala Harris

                              Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome

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                              • Transient
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2020
                                • 792

                                Originally posted by igs
                                "Because this case involves serious questions going to the merits, a temporary stay is in the public interest. This declaration and permanent injunction are stayed for 30 days during which time the Attorney General may appeal and seek a stay from the Court of Appeals."

                                We are being trolled.
                                To me this reads as Benitez saying, "Come at me, bro."

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