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  • ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 56983

    Originally posted by CandG
    Maybe, or maybe not. Depends on what the Order might say exactly, and what any subsequent stay might say exactly.

    Scenarios like this are why I photographed all my AR's with Raddlocks on them when I registered them
    And the photos should have been taken STRAIGHT ON to the button so it's not possible to perceive in the photo if the button is flush with the reciever or standing up 5/32"...
    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
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    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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    • Mendo223
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 1536

      Originally posted by Discogodfather

      Seems like if another freedom week occurred, this would be basically limited to people removing BB's off of RAWS? Maybe converting a featureless rifle back to "normal"?
      Whoa BBRAWS can finally remove the BBs? But we have to do this and send proof to DOJ or something?

      Man the laws are so hard to keep up with sometimes...

      Should i begin prepping some of my lowers to register for a new freedom week.

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      • curtisfong
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2009
        • 6893

        Originally posted by Mendo223
        Whoa BBRAWS can finally remove the BBs?
        absolutely not, that was a hypothetical.
        The Rifle on the WallKamala Harris

        Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome

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        • Ishooter
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 904

          Is this a big win or a small win of FPC?
          Today, Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) announced a major settlement agreement, inclusive of an injunction and consent decree, with California Attorney General Xavier Becerra and the California Department of Justice (DOJ) in Sharp v. Becerra, a federal due process lawsuit that challenged the State’s implementation and enforcement of “assault weapons” laws passed in 2016, including “registration disasters” such as failed DOJ systems.

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          • Dnele928
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 683

            So, 120 day public notice period, 90 days to try again...looks like your AR can roam free for another 210 days, ~7 months. Hmmm....

            And, the ammo-buy background check had about a 20% error rate.

            Well done CA!

            Well, it got Becerra able to fail up to a more prestigious Fed Gov position.

            As I find myself saying way too regularly: competence is a rare commodity.

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            • Cartierusm
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 28

              What benefit was there to register your gun as an assault weapon?

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              • PicantePeperoni
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2013
                • 97

                Originally posted by Cartierusm
                What benefit was there to register your gun as an assault weapon?
                Retaining the banned features with the caveat of having to deal with the AW restrictions. EX: having a pistol grip and bullet button at the range but never being able to stop along the route to and from the range or letting a minor touch it.

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                • Cartierusm
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 28

                  Ah ok. So still have to have the bullet button?

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                  • PicantePeperoni
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 97

                    Originally posted by Cartierusm
                    Ah ok. So still have to have the bullet button?
                    Yes, for those that were registered recently. I know of a few individuals that thought it was less hassle to do the registration than to move to featureless.

                    To each their own?

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                    • steelrain82
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 3679

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      The firearm receiver is the serialized part.
                      Do you have a specific example of an AR with a serialized upper receiver and a non-serialized lower receiver?
                      Perhaps one of the 5.7 uppers?
                      I think if you were to go out of the AR realm, but stay shooting 5.56, a lot of Bullet button equipped guns have the bullet button located on a non-serialized lower. A Steyr Aug would be a great example of this. The bullet button is actually located on the stock (AR equivalent lower receiver), which houses the trigger grouping, magazine release, and bolt release. The "upper" is is the serialized part.

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                      • Ishooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 904

                        Originally posted by Cartierusm
                        What benefit was there to register your gun as an assault weapon?
                        Probably not much. Diane Feinstein's new ban may take your AW away. I'm not sure, though, but going featureless maybe a better option.

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                        • Cartierusm
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 28

                          If you have all the evil features, i.e. a regular AR-15, but have the new patriot button that makes the mag not droppable without breaking the top. That gun is still legal right?

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                          • LongLiveTheRepublic
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 625

                            Originally posted by Cartierusm
                            If you have all the evil features, i.e. a regular AR-15, but have the new patriot button that makes the mag not droppable without breaking the top. That gun is still legal right?
                            Yes.

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                            • ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 56983

                              Originally posted by Cartierusm
                              What benefit was there to register your gun as an assault weapon?
                              You can use 11+ round mags with as many features as you want while being able to reload without having to disassemble the action.
                              26" overall length instead of 30" overall length.
                              Randall Rausch

                              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                              • ar15barrels
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 56983

                                Originally posted by LongLiveTheRepublic
                                Yes.
                                For now.
                                Who knows what the state will come up with next...

                                At least with a registered AW, the guns are grandfathered in the configuration they are in during the registration.
                                My 2001 RAW's are free state rifles.
                                Randall Rausch

                                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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