Miller v. Bonta 9th Ckt "assault weapons": Held for Duncan result 1-26-24

[SlickSlinky]

Am I wrong in thinking that even if this does get ruled in our favor, the microstamping requirement would still make any new firearms unavailable? I guess I could buy a threaded barrel, but I would really love a new two tone Beretta M9A3.

Should they also have noted that California has allowed LEOs to legally purchase what is considered an AW?

[taperxz]

Am I wrong in thinking that even if this does get ruled in our favor, the microstamping requirement would still make any new firearms unavailable? I guess I could buy a threaded barrel, but I would really love a new two tone Beretta M9A3.

Should they also have noted that California has allowed LEOs to legally purchase what is considered an AW?

[sfvshooter]

I usually get an email from CRPA when something worthwhile occurs. I haven't received anything in the last few days.

[SlickSlinky]

You are right, the AWB and the roster would have to be overturned to get the pistol that I would like to get.

But they still have a way to get what the state considers an AW and have it in use legally. Where, if I were to have the same modifications, then it is illegal and I go to jail. Its a two tier system and should be argued in my opinion.

[taperxz]

You are right, the AWB and the roster would have to be overturned to get the pistol that I would like to get.

But they still have a way to get what the state considers an AW and have it in use legally. Where, if I were to have the same modifications, then it is illegal and I go to jail. Its a two tier system and should be argued in my opinion.

Military and LE are already exempt from Federal NFA laws so that would bea federal issue

[FirearmFino]

NOTICE of Change of Hearing on 16 MOTION to Dismiss for Lack of Jurisdiction Certain Claims in First Amended Complaint MOTION to Dismiss for Failure to State a Claim : Motion Hearing reset for 1/16/2020 10:00 AM in Courtroom 5A before Judge Roger T. Benitez. (no document attached) (gxr) (Entered: 12/10/2019)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/16069141/miller-v-becerra/

[GPMG Gunner]

I’ll offer this;

If Judge Benitez rules in our favor (very possible) and the same thing occurs with the magazine ban injunction (that resulted in freedom week - again, a possibility), then I predict the following two things will occur:

1. Millions of modern rifles formerly called “assault weapons” will flood into California, and you won’t be able to find a lower or semi auto to save your life on gun store shelves. However , due to the 10 day wait, a week of freedom won’t be enough. The beneficiaries of the injunction will be CURRENT owners of modern rifles.
2. If the same thing occurs with the AWCA that happened with magazines, the net effect will be that the law that controls assault weapons will be unenforceable. Just like it is with magazines. The defense of, “I made, bought, imported, transported, or modified X during freedom week” will be a legal shield from prosecution. They may even be forced to open the registration rolls again.

It won’t be about keeping bullet buttons. This will be about having rifles in their free configuration.

And one more thing; the 9th is no longer a sure vote for the antis. It’s about 50/50 now, most of those are Trump judges. We will have to wait and see.

I think this case gives the antis far more to worry about than NY vs. NYSRPA

[Betfair39]

i know this is out of topic but why there is no litigation about NFA items (Silencers SBR AR Pistols) in California right now?

[everyday_hero]

Remember when distributors made it clear that freedom magazines had to be shipped separately from CA compliant firearms. My educated guess is this time the option will be any feature will become lawful to order.

[shungokusatsu]

Does this have any impact on the list of rifles banned by name? Cuz you know, KAC and all.

[GPMG Gunner]

Does this have any impact on the list of rifles banned by name? Cuz you know, KAC and all.

[GPMG Gunner]

i know this is out of topic but why there is no litigation about NFA items (Silencers SBR AR Pistols) in California right now?

[Uncivil Engineer]

You are getting a M107A1, and you and you,.. we are all getting BMGs... Hurray.

[Murder]

1. Millions of modern rifles formerly called “assault weapons” will flood into California, and you won’t be able to find a lower or semi auto to save your life on gun store shelves. However , due to the 10 day wait, a week of freedom won’t be enough. The beneficiaries of the injunction will be CURRENT owners of modern rifles. A

I don't think so. From what I remember, as long as you PURCHASED it within that week it would still be honored; you could have received your mags a month later and it wouldn't have mattered. I'm assuming the same will happen with this.

[morrcarr67]

You can also own AOW and DD

I thought you needed a DD permit from the state of CA and the odds of you getting one was slim to none.