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  • XDJYo
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2012
    • 6157

    Originally posted by darkwater34
    Hopefully the Washington State AWB case makes it's way to the SCOTUS before the end of the year.
    So...just gotta hang on another year?!?!?! What the actual heck! This state blows big hairy, sweaty donkey b*lls.
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    • Bhobbs
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      • Feb 2009
      • 11848

      Originally posted by SpudmanWP
      GVR was the right move as SCOTUS does not have the time to micromanage every case in the pipeline.
      GVR was the wrong move for something as significant as an AWB and LCMB. Heller and Bruen are insufficient. More must be done to reign in the lower courts.

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      • jcwatchdog
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 2571

        Originally posted by Bhobbs
        GVR was the wrong move for something as significant as an AWB and LCMB. Heller and Bruen are insufficient. More must be done to reign in the lower courts.

        Don?t worry, I?m sure they?ll take another gay cake baking decision to further clarify. Haven?t they already done 2 now?

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        • AlmostHeaven
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2023
          • 3808

          Originally posted by Bhobbs
          GVR was the wrong move for something as significant as an AWB and LCMB. Heller and Bruen are insufficient. More must be done to reign in the lower courts.


          The "institutionalists" on the high court need to realize that the more lower court open defiance they tolerate via inaction, the worse the behavior will get, in all matters extending far beyond Second Amendment jurisprudence, including subjects the justices personally prioritize.
          A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

          The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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          • 1911su16b870
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            CGN Contributor
            • Dec 2006
            • 7654



            Mark Smith has posited an idea that Bianchi v Frosh (4th Circuit) they recognized that a panel decision would come out favorably to the 2A and has en-banc-ed the case internally and un-beknows to anyone else. This would have been done so they can allow an AWB in Maryland.

            If this presumption is true...my how far we have fallen in our justice system and have disregarded the rule of law and transparency.
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            • Sgt Raven
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 3806

              Originally posted by 1911su16b870
              https://youtu.be/6wBg-SJU9MA?si=5zaQMtvnZt_f_OpY&t=463

              Mark Smith has posited an idea that Bianchi v Frosh (4th Circuit) they recognized that a panel decision would come out favorably to the 2A and has en-banc-ed the case internally and un-beknows to anyone else. This would have been done so they can allow an AWB in Maryland.

              If this presumption is true...my how far we have fallen in our justice system and have disregarded the rule of law and transparency.

              Mark W Smith nailed it...
              It was announced today that Bianchi v Frosh is going en banc. Orals are the week of March 19-22.
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              • AlmostHeaven
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2023
                • 3808

                F*CK THE FOURTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS.

                The behavior of the left-wing majority on the appellate court makes the Ninth Circuit seem restrained. Notice how the en banc panel waited more than an entire year before seizing control of the Maryland assault weapons ban case away from the conservative 3-judge panel. At least the Ninth Circuit en banc panel had the courtesy of taking Duncan v. Bonta immediately.
                A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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                • abinsinia
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2015
                  • 4119

                  Yeah, a whole year wasted.

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                  • lastinline
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 2364

                    Originally posted by 1911su16b870

                    If this presumption is true...my how far we have fallen in our justice system and have disregarded the rule of law and transparency.
                    All this cat poop illustrates why it is no longer immoral, unethical, wrong, or indecent in any way for the average citizen to completely ignore, sidestep, or outright break any of these gun laws. If you can do so without being caught, you are a roll model to be looked up to. There is no shame in defiance of unconstitutional bull**** decreed by these satanic leftist kings.

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                    • AlmostHeaven
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2023
                      • 3808

                      Originally posted by lastinline
                      All this cat poop illustrates why it is no longer immoral, unethical, wrong, or indecent in any way for the average citizen to completely ignore, sidestep, or outright break any of these gun laws. If you can do so without being caught, you are a role model to be looked up to. There is no shame in defiance of unconstitutional bull**** decreed by these satanic leftist kings.
                      We really have arrived at the point where "law-abiding gun owner" no longer has any meaning.
                      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                      The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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                      • lastinline
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 2364

                        Originally posted by AlmostHeaven
                        We really have arrived at the point where "law-abiding gun owner" no longer has any meaning.
                        And that is a hard pill to swallow for some as it no longer has much credibility. It means you are a simp for the state legislature. You can be an overnight criminal simply by waking up one morning, no matter how hard you have worked your entire life to live in obedience. Many have patiently waited decades for a scrap from the government after continually having their rights taken, and then see the courts piss all over them as they lay down after being kicked. I think we are getting a taste of what the colonists felt when the British turned up the heat.

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                        • JDoe
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                          • Jul 2008
                          • 2414

                          Where are the members of the three judge panel? They have access to social media where they can express themselves.
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                          • Rickybillegas
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2022
                            • 1537

                            Appeals courts across the country dominated by liberal justices see themselves as guardians of the resistance movement against the right to keep and bear arms. Openly and blatantly and without the slightest hint of dishonor. Simply put, they are in open rebellion.
                            And as the recent article in 'reason magazine' articulated, they are hoping their decisions outlast a conservative supreme court.

                            We are helpless unless we retake the senate and/or presidency.

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                            • neuron
                              Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 257

                              Originally posted by JDoe
                              Where are the members of the three judge panel? They have access to social media where they can express themselves.
                              They can certainly read the CG.net forums, but I doubt it would be a good idea for them to express their opinions on cases under judicial review either here on CG.net or anywhere else except in their official written rulings. Doing so would IMO be at the very least unbecoming behavior for a judge.

                              I'd be quite happy if they read what we post here. I'd suggest all of us keep in mind that CG.net is a public forum and anything we post here can be read by anyone anyone with internet access, including those who are not at all supportive of the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment and CCW related forum provide a good way for us to try to explain why the 2nd Amendment is so important to maintain the other freedoms we as Americans have enjoyed since the founding of our great republic. The best way to achieve this goal is to argue with reason and equanimity.

                              I understand why most people who love their freedom would get angry at those who attempt to take it away. Feeling angry about having ones rights stolen is probably unavoidable and can serve to motivate people to defend their rights. Those who are determined to take away rights by whatever vile means they deem necessary do need to be challenged with the utmost vigor and determination, not by resorting to their vile techniques but by using all legally available means, including the judiciary and most importantly the ballot box. Fortunately at this time we still have access to both of these options, though it seems they are coming more and more under attack.

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                              • lastinline
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 2364

                                Originally posted by Rickybillegas

                                We are helpless unless we retake the senate and/or presidency.
                                We (some of us) are helpless because we go along with the system, hoping that if we contributed $$ and wait patiently that things will get better. The Left knows this, and uses that as an effective tool in that they continually throw down new laws, rules, policies, etc., while it takes years, decades, and generations to slow any of it. I got tired of waiting for decades and live my life as I see fit, without the Lefts blessing that will never come here in Kali.

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