Miller v. Bonta 9th Ckt "assault weapons": Held for Duncan result 1-26-24

[GetMeCoffee]

if they were capable of figuring things out, they'd had done so....decades ago. most of these idiots go through life gobbling up every single nugget of crap dropped out the democrat's rear end. we've tried walking on egg shells just to avoid offending the sensibility of these dunces so they could see things logically. it hasn't worked, it won't work because it doesn't work. the media will have them seeing and believing whatever they want. your personal behavior matters not.

I strongly disagree. I have personally changed the minds of a number of friends and acquaintances - including (hopefully past) donors to Everytown et al. It usually starts with "What? You belong to the NRA?" or "What? You carry a gun?". My own personal behavior means everything here because that is what gets the conversation going. Once you start the conversation, there are SO many ways to go (e.g. the racist pedigree of gun laws, why the term "assault rifle" is so ridiculous, NRA safety courses, how they felt in the Rodney King or other riots and how many people the rooftop Koreans killed vs. numbers the protesters killed, etc, etc.)

These people are our neighbors. They've been fed a line of BS and they need to be un-brainwashed. It can be done but they have to be receptive and not on the defensive.

All that said, it's different strokes for different folks. We're all working toward the same goal in our own ways.

[Metal God]

They are also the ones that can readily realize what a load of crap they've been fed after they watch this play out.

LMAO , can you say P.A.N.D.E.M.I.C !! haha - It takes a special kind of person to be willing to go against everything they believe when that entire foundation is built on sand . Completely reversing course means admitting how wrong they were in the first place . How they failed to use common sense , how they failed to actually look at the data for them selves , failed to do even the most basic research . That's a lot of self reflection when one already thinks they're right ! It takes a special type of person do that and this country does not have a lot of them on either side of anything . It's the very reason IMHO the woke refuse to debate or even discuss the issues . If they do it will expose the house of cards there whole exitance is built on . Then what , now They're just a shell of a person when just one debate ago they were the most tolerant , respectful contributing members of society with all the right answers .

[homelessdude]

GMC You can go out and convert them You are probably much better at it than I would ever be. Everyone you convert is one I don't have to fight so it's a good thing. I have been fighting them for fifty years and don't even enjoy being in the same room with them. I wouldn't expect a major change in how either side thinks. I like many others have deep seated memories of how we have been treated. I can do live and let live if the other side could do the same. I don't think they can. It's their nature to dictate how everyone else must comply to their beliefs, rules. etc. I wish you luck.

[19K]

Lol we did. They were given jobs as scientists, government officials, police officers, and other positions of power. They only executed really high officials.

[RickD427]

Lol we did. They were given jobs as scientists, government officials, police officers, and other positions of power. They only executed really high officials.

^^^THIS^^^

Let's please remember that the "Father of the U.S. Space Program" was Dr. Wernher Van Braun.

Dr. Van Braun was a member of the Nazi party and was also an officer in the SS. He developed the V-2 Rocket which was used against civilian targets in England.

[Fyathyrio]

Once again, Godwin's Law is confirmed, congrats. In the absence of actual updates dealing with this case, perhaps all y'all could go watch football, or spend time with family, or just go outside?

[Spaceghost]

I wish each case had two separate threads. One for updates and another for discussion.

I would prefer to use my original place for gun rights news, but I am getting ready to stop coming to this section because it's over loaded with useless garbage.

We just need that Mr rabbit guy to come in and repeat every answer is in the heller decision, if we just read it....

Once again, Godwin's Law is confirmed, congrats. In the absence of actual updates dealing with this case, perhaps all y'all could go watch football, or spend time with family, or just go outside?

[lp3056]

^^^THIS^^^

Let's please remember that the "Father of the U.S. Space Program" was Dr. Wernher Van Braun.

Dr. Van Braun was a member of the Nazi party and was also an officer in the SS. He developed the V-2 Rocket which was used against civilian targets in England.

He was also knowledgeable of the Mittelwerk production facility that built them and it's prison labors that built the facility and production. After the Apollo project ended a couple of German Engineers lost their citizenship and were deported back to Germany. I'm not sure but I think if he had lived a little longer he also would have been deported as well.

[chris]

You dont think they will just transfer all the road and other infrastructure taxes onto all of our electric bills (regardless of whether you own and EV, to you know incentivize everyone to get on board and sell your old vehicle out of state and buy an EV) ?

I hope they do hit EV owners with the same taxes we pay for fuel. You know the "pay your fair share crowd" What they pay in extra registration fees is nothing. I wonder if they pay a weight fee here as EV's are rather heavy compared to regular cars.

I say they pay the .54 cents per KWHR and .18 for Fed taxes. That will be added to their electric bill specifically when charging their car. Normal electric rates apply for the household.

[BaronW]

2022-8-29: Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Roger T. Benitez: Appeal Mandate Hearing held on 8/29/2022. Appeal Mandate ordered filed for USCA Case Number(s): 21-55608. Injunction dissolved. Both parties have 45 days to file simultaneous additional briefs and 15 days thereafter to file responsive briefs in light of Bruen. The Court will then decide whether to schedule any hearings or decide the case on the record.

(nothing new, but it's been a couple pages since the topic was the actual case.)

[Drivedabizness]

So - 60 days from 8/29 and then whatever time Judge Benitez (May God protect and keep him) takes to decide what to do. Am I reading that right?

[johncage]

once he decides the case on the record, that means it's a permanent ruling?

[jcwatchdog]

So - 60 days from 8/29 and then whatever time Judge Benitez (May God protect and keep him) takes to decide what to do. Am I reading that right?

45 days, it is 30, then another 15 for replies.

[G-forceJunkie]

Of course not. If it goes our way, the the state appleals it to the 9th. if they go our way, then a random 9th judge sends it enbanc. Then we loose, then we have to go back to SCOTUS. Its going to take years.

once he decides the case on the record, that means it's a permanent ruling?

[lastinline]

New York would probably want to overturn the 1776 revolution at this point as illegitimate, if they going that far.

They can call it the Cornwallis Act.