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Miller v. Bonta 9th Ckt "assault weapons": Held for Duncan result 1-26-24

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  • aBrowningfan
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 1475

    Originally posted by taperxz
    With a PI and the length of time it would take to get a SCOTUS decision i would venture to guess that the SCOTUS would allow people grandfathered in would not be subject to a taking by the state.
    I could see SCotUS maintaining a PI until they could rule on the merits if they granted cert. But reversing before ruling seems highly unlikely.

    Not to mention, a SCOTUS ruling in favor of the state would leave open that law to the rest of the country and that ain't happening in todays court
    Wait until the NYSR&PA case is decided. I don't like getting out in front of my skis. Roberts could still go squish or they could decide the case is moot.

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    • paddyraid
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2017
      • 568

      Originally posted by GunnEnvy
      My Tavor is dying to lose its fin grip and 4" muzzle break!

      How many times have you burned the **** out of your thumb after a bunch of rounds? At least on an AR I can still wrap my thumb around with the proper fin or I can rest it on the shelf of the SI fin grip or the Exile machine miad grip backstrap fin. that X95 fin grip though just sucks balls. nowhere to put my thumb except sticking up in the air.

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      • Echo4kilo
        Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 368

        Originally posted by Sputnik
        Does anyone still have bullet buttons? Since they no longer served their intended purpose mine came off. But I'd love to have my pistol grips back, please.
        Yes, lots of people still have bulletbuttons. That was the whole point of the recent AW Registration. You kept all your features but had to keep on the BB. Of course it does not mean much since a slight turn of a radlock BB and a 60 round drum makes the whole thing pointless. Also, anything purchased after 2014 is registered anyway

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        • Echo4kilo
          Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 368

          Originally posted by Garrett52
          Exactly, but this would change that. I guess I should hurry up and buy the ar pistols haha
          You can’t buy them....

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          • Sputnik
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 2120

            Originally posted by Echo4kilo
            Yes, lots of people still have bulletbuttons. That was the whole point of the recent AW Registration. You kept all your features but had to keep on the BB. Of course it does not mean much since a slight turn of a radlock BB and a 60 round drum makes the whole thing pointless. Also, anything purchased after 2014 is registered anyway
            Of course, BB RAWs, how could I forget? doh!

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            • taperxz
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2010
              • 19395

              Yes you can.

              CA7 is the first AR pistol on the California Safegun Roster. The CA7 has a 10 round detachable magazine, 7.5" barrel with an FST M-Lok compatible handguard.

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              • Garrett52
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2019
                • 36

                Originally posted by taperxz
                This.. and there are a few ffls that can still sell them legally in California. Fixed mag though

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                • Solidsnake87
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 4399

                  Originally posted by Garrett52
                  This.. and there are a few ffls that can still sell them legally in California. Fixed mag though
                  The CA7 is a detachable mag bolt action ar pistol.
                  Replying to craigslist for casual encounters is like pokemon with STDs. Gotta catch em all
                  If Hell ever needed a operations manual all it would need is a copy of California's laws
                  .

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                  • Garrett52
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2019
                    • 36

                    Originally posted by Solidsnake87
                    The CA7 is a detachable mag bolt action ar pistol.
                    I meant that there are ffls that can still sell complete ar pistols they manufactured as fixed mag. They can be converted to semi-auto after purchase.

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                    • Dirk Tungsten
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 2036

                      Originally posted by Garrett52
                      I meant that there are ffls that can still sell complete ar pistols they manufactured as fixed mag. They can be converted to semi-auto after purchase.

                      https://www.courtlistener.com/docket...ler-v-becerra/
                      The DOJ now treats this as manufacturing an unsafe handgun, so I don't believe it's legal to do so. Anyone considering going down this road should think twice about it.

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                      • WellRegulated
                        Member
                        • Nov 2017
                        • 156

                        Originally posted by Dirk Tungsten
                        The DOJ now treats this as manufacturing an unsafe handgun, so I don't believe it's legal to do so. Anyone considering going down this road should think twice about it.
                        No they don't. It specifically says "MAY" on the website because there is no PC that would prohibit someone from doing it.

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                        • Manzo
                          Member
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 231

                          So category 1 AW are a no go?

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                          • mshill
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 4421

                            Originally posted by Echo4kilo
                            Yes, lots of people still have bulletbuttons. That was the whole point of the recent AW Registration. You kept all your features but had to keep on the BB. Of course it does not mean much since a slight turn of a radlock BB and a 60 round drum makes the whole thing pointless. Also, anything purchased after 2014 is registered anyway
                            ^^^^^^ this. All of my BBRAWs and fixed magazine firearms can be reverted to free state mode in about one minute each. If there is no time for that I can just grab one of my featureless rifles and pop a freedom week pmag60 into it and follow it up with a bunch of freedom week pmag 30s if needed.
                            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

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                            • axhoaxho
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 9824

                              Tagged.

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                              • blubullett
                                Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 347

                                Originally posted by GunnEnvy
                                My Tavor is dying to lose its fin grip and 4" muzzle break!
                                I don't think this will make SBR's legal in CA. You would still need a federal tax stamp and to get a tax stamp in CA you have to have a CA dangerous weapons permit, which CA will not give you and is not covered by the assault weapons law being challenged.

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