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  • TruOil
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2017
    • 1920

    Originally posted by splithoof
    This is exactly why many folks (myself included) have lost all respect for the entire judicial system, the legislature, and those tasked with enforcing bad law. My expectations of the above are totally zero, and anything that may possibly come as a benefit from the above is a total freebie, unplanned, and to be used before it is snatched away. Sad, but that is the reality, at least in California.
    This is not necessarily "political." The trial judges and appeal judges of the Ninth Circuit have probably the highest case load in the nation. I have one case where it takes a year to get a decision on a relatively simple motion. Everything takes a lot of time.

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    • riderr
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2013
      • 5898

      Originally posted by TruOil

      This is not necessarily "political." The trial judges and appeal judges of the Ninth Circuit have probably the highest case load in the nation. I have one case where it takes a year to get a decision on a relatively simple motion. Everything takes a lot of time.
      I bet 9CA would move much faster, if SCOTUS granted temporary injunction on all the anti-2A laws argued in the court. Yet, since they keep the law on the books, they have no motivation to make the decision quick.

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      • splithoof
        Veteran Member
        • May 2015
        • 4778

        Originally posted by riderr

        I bet 9CA would move much faster, if SCOTUS granted temporary injunction on all the anti-2A laws argued in the court. Yet, since they keep the law on the books, they have no motivation to make the decision quick.

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        • Sgt Raven
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 3747

          I'm not going to post the video, but Copper Jacket TV showed a letter from the State referencing Bianchi.
          I haven't found the letter posted somewhere or another source of this info.
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          • abinsinia
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2015
            • 3973

            Originally posted by Sgt Raven
            I'm not going to post the video, but Copper Jacket TV showed a letter from the State referencing Bianchi.
            I haven't found the letter posted somewhere or another source of this info.


            maybe that one.

            and the response,

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            • dawgcasa
              Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 483

              Originally posted by riderr

              I bet 9CA would move much faster, if SCOTUS granted temporary injunction on all the anti-2A laws argued in the court. Yet, since they keep the law on the books, they have no motivation to make the decision quick.
              The 9th Circuit has no motivation to act quickly on ANY gun-rights case because they purposefully want to delay any possible grant of cert on a final judgement. They know the current SCOTUS makeup will mean a smack down for them. The fact that the 9th tends to stay any injunctions from the district courts keeps the laws in effect for however long it takes. They are hoping that Democrats sweep the 2024 or 2028 elections where they can finally act on their threats to ‘reform’ the Supreme Court, so they are dutifully kicking the can down the road as long as possible. Their long game is to have a liberal majority SCOTUS completely reverse Heller and Bruen, or at minimum completely undermine them through making “interest balancing” the default legal standard.
              Last edited by dawgcasa; 09-17-2024, 3:11 PM.

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              • riderr
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2013
                • 5898

                Originally posted by dawgcasa

                The 9th Circuit has no motivation to act quickly on ANY gun-rights case because they purposefully want to delay any possible grant of cert on a final judgement. The know the current SCOTUS makeup will mean a smack down for them. The fact that the 9th tends to stay any injunctions from the district courts keeps the laws in effect for however long it takes. They are hoping that Democrats sweep the 2024 or 2028 elections where they can finally act on their threats to ‘reform’ the Supreme Court, so they are dutifully kicking the can down the road as long as possible. Their long game is to have a liberal majority SCOTUS completely reverse Heller and Bruen, or at minimum completely undermine them through making “interest balancing” the default legal standard.
                I blame SCOTUS for turning a blind eye on the clearly anti-constitutional decisions of the lower courts

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                • Ishooter
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 896

                  Originally posted by riderr

                  I blame SCOTUS for turning a blind eye on the clearly anti-constitutional decisions of the lower courts
                  They didn't really help that much. They created many loopholes for the dissidents to make the matters worse.

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                  • nosuchagency
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1091

                    can we get an update on the update thread for quick reference: https://www.calguns.net/forum/politi...st-information
                    Originally posted by Graybeard
                    Seriously the quality of some of the posts on here has gone waaaaayyyyyy down
                    Originally posted by cannon
                    You have not been here long enough to see how low they can really go.

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                    • XDJYo
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                      • Apr 2012
                      • 6142

                      Nothing has changed. Newsolini is still in charge and we are living in Non-America.
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                      • SWalt
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 7599

                        Originally posted by riderr

                        I blame SCOTUS for turning a blind eye on the clearly anti-constitutional decisions of the lower courts
                        Like John Roberts is really going to publicly castigate the inferior courts. I believe that is reserved for certain politicians, only certain ones. He didn't castigate Merrick Garland for allowing protests outside of justices, his own courts justices homes, so why call out inferior courts for not obeying SCOTUS precedent?

                        ETA: Didn't know this was the OLD thread!
                        Last edited by SWalt; 03-21-2025, 11:17 AM.
                        ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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                        • riderr
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 5898

                          Originally posted by SWalt

                          Like John Roberts is really going to publicly castigate the inferior courts. I believe that is reserved for certain politicians, only certain ones. He didn't castigate Merrick Garland for allowing protests outside of justices, his own courts justices homes, so why call out inferior courts for not obeying SCOTUS precedent?
                          It's really different with protests(shall I say "mostly peaceful protests" lol). One thing is to lash out at the people, arguably hitting their 1A. However, when a lower court plain refuses to follow the SCOTUS opinion aka the case-law, it's a legal matter.
                          Last edited by riderr; 03-21-2025, 11:21 AM.

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                          • EM2
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 4153

                            Originally posted by riderr
                            It's really different with protests(shall I say "mostly peaceful protests" lol). One thing is to lash out at the people, arguably hitting their 1A. However, when a lower court plain refuses to follow the SCOTUS opinion aka the case-law, it's a legal matter.

                            The rule of law dies in this nation some time ago, we are currently operating under the rule of might, as in who is the strongest.

                            So long as Roberts wields power, he will rule or pressure as he sees fit within the confines of his power influence.
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                            Originally posted by SAN compnerd
                            It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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                            • riderr
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 5898

                              Originally posted by EM2


                              The rule of law dies in this nation some time ago, we are currently operating under the rule of might, as in who is the strongest.

                              So long as Roberts wields power, he will rule or pressure as he sees fit within the confines of his power influence.
                              Well, one way or another, he's not going to interfere which is unfortunate

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                              • tacticalcity
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 10656

                                The ruling from the 9th was expected. They broke their own rules to hear this case, in order to deliver the decision they did. This likely will be the magazine case the Supreme Court will actually here. It seems like they have been waiting for it. We'll see.

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