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  • greensoup
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 737

    Originally posted by therealnickb
    While I never had any interestit's p junk bonds, we too looked at a lot of real estate during that time. I was sitting on a ton of cash but didn't see any deals except short sales. We made several cash offers that disappeared into black holes. I know a few people scored, but I know plenty of others that shared our experience.
    I wrote around 20-30 offers to get 2 accepted. Like you most of mine went nowhere.

    Junks bonds in the case where I bought were large well known companies like Sprint. Higher risk but the volume of defaults required to lose money was very remote.

    In the really bad times are the best time to buy.
    1. Everything melts down. You lose everything, as does everyone else.
    2. Eventual recovery.

    If the lights are still on and water comes out of the tap its #2

    Gold was a good buy for a number of years but if it's dropping or flat why buy if you can make more else where.

    I cycle my holdings to dump losers regularly. If it's not returning it's better to cycle it out and buy something moving. Then rotate back. Sell if it drops X% and don't look back.
    Last edited by greensoup; 12-10-2014, 11:01 PM.

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    • greensoup
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 737

      Originally posted by sixoclockhold
      Oil is down over 40% from it's high this year and 35% for the year.

      Gold is down 15% from it's high this year and 0% for the year.

      Just sayin....

      I coulda been a Monday morning quarterback but instead I'll stick with a Pirate as Gold has and will always be a storage of wealth.
      Oil barrel prices are down. Oil stocks were returning 3-5% just in dividends.

      There's no difference between oil, gold, land. Buy the winners, sell the losers.

      With oil down gold might trend up. If it trends up I might buy. But I wouldn't buy flat trying to bet the bottom. Even Goldman Sachs can't call a bottom and they have the power to move markets.

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      • sixoclockhold
        Banned
        • Jul 2012
        • 4040

        Hey Smashy

        What do we do? Sell the stawks we have or ride it out, maybe even buy the dippidy do?

        Tell us if the central banks or plunge protection team will save our retirements.

        Hey whats with the circuit breakers for Gold trading, $400 up and we pull the plug or is that for $400 down lol. To da Moon !

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        • sixoclockhold
          Banned
          • Jul 2012
          • 4040

          The final days of our Reserve Currency as we know it are upon us and will come with lightning speed.

          Ponder the Petro Dollar for a moment. Oil is traded in US currency, well most of it anyway but countries are now moving to use other means. This has lessened the importance of the Mighty Buck. Now couple a 40% drop in OIL Prices, this means 40% less US Dollars are needed. Effect? We must curtail printing(but can't), the globe sloshes in Greenbacks. Hyperinflation......

          There are reasons the .Gov stocked food, ammo and made camps, hell is knocking at our door.

          Will you survive?

          Smashy, you have been awful quiet since Oil prices have begun to cascade. Will we see $40 a barrel soon?

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          • wpage
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2011
            • 6068

            Time to buy is now...
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            • Ripon83
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2011
              • 6686

              Come on...be real

              We all got opinions....but that doesn't make them real.

              For example QE is over and we are no longer seriously increasing the money supply. Prove otherwise if you can. You wrote we must curtail printing (but can't) and I believe you are wrong on that.

              Countries have wanted to move to "other means" imply they want to print something and use it. How is that working? Ask Mexico and Japan. Russia, China, India, or Europe please feel free to show me ONE that is doing better against the dollar.

              The oil trade in the world is 1/70th of WW global trade so explain how cutting it 40% is inflationary? It's minimally deflationary if anything as it will reduce overall costs of production.



              Originally posted by sixoclockhold
              The final days of our Reserve Currency as we know it are upon us and will come with lightning speed.

              Ponder the Petro Dollar for a moment. Oil is traded in US currency, well most of it anyway but countries are now moving to use other means. This has lessened the importance of the Mighty Buck. Now couple a 40% drop in OIL Prices, this means 40% less US Dollars are needed. Effect? We must curtail printing(but can't), the globe sloshes in Greenbacks. Hyperinflation......

              There are reasons the .Gov stocked food, ammo and made camps, hell is knocking at our door.

              Will you survive?

              Smashy, you have been awful quiet since Oil prices have begun to cascade. Will we see $40 a barrel soon?
              Remember the Mighty Midgets



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              • smashycrashy
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 2999

                Originally posted by sixoclockhold
                Hey Smashy

                What do we do? Sell the stawks we have or ride it out, maybe even buy the dippidy do?

                Tell us if the central banks or plunge protection team will save our retirements.

                Hey whats with the circuit breakers for Gold trading, $400 up and we pull the plug or is that for $400 down lol. To da Moon !
                Are you really sweating a ~3% stock market drop? For some reason you aren't sweating the ~30% drop in gold.

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                • mindwip
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1576

                  Thought silver would continue its climb. Dropped good today.
                  NRA Member and Pistol Instructor, CGN/CGF supporter and CRPA Member. Time to put your money where your mouth is.

                  Current goal; become a Appleseed Rifleman.

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                  • cxr
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1012

                    Originally posted by mindwip
                    Thought silver would continue its climb. Dropped good today.
                    the way i understand it is that silver and gold are no longer being propped up by QE so a big correction is forthcoming.

                    i think with stocks too these corporations are going to have to start spending their hoarded cash.

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                    • glockman19
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 10486

                      Gold back under $1,200
                      Silver back under $16

                      Nothing to see..."these aren't the droids you're looking for, move along."

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                      • TheChief
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1864

                        This is the post that started the thread:

                        Just checked, gold is at $1482 and silver is at $25.70 an ounce. These have not been this low in two years.

                        Thoughts on the next year? Time to buy or time to sell?

                        A year and a half later and the prices are even lower at $1193 and %15.76 for gold and server respectively.

                        Looking back at all the predictions for a massive increase or decrease in the value of the PMs...if you are consistently wrong...shouldn't you learn from that and stop making"for sure" "absolute" predictions? Though I can see a tie in with prepping in general with that kind of thinking...ummm, yeah, never mind
                        Last edited by TheChief; 12-16-2014, 11:16 AM.
                        All things being equal...

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                        • sixoclockhold
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 4040

                          Originally posted by TheChief
                          This is the post that started the thread:

                          Just checked, gold is at $1482 and silver is at $25.70 an ounce. These have not been this low in two years.

                          Thoughts on the next year? Time to buy or time to sell?

                          A year and a half later and the prices are even lower at $1193 and %15.76 for gold and server respectively.

                          Looking back at all the predictions for a massive increase or decrease in the value of the PMs...if you are consistently wrong...shouldn't you learn from that and stop making"for sure" "absolute" predictions? Though I can see a tie in with prepping in general with that kind of thinking...ummm, yeah, never mind
                          Got a little ahead of yourselves didn't you? Market lost all it's gains and closed down again today. Don't be surprised if the S&P gives back EVERYTHING for the year. Gold is flat for the year and I'm fine with it.

                          In case you didn't notice, the globe is exploding and the US will get beat up just like everyone else. Fiat and funny money has lost once again.

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                          • mindwip
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1576

                            Is the stock market gives up all gains for the year it's ahead of gold and silver still....

                            And since it has been up the only way to sell the stock is to have others to buy it, lots of people are happily selling there stocks
                            NRA Member and Pistol Instructor, CGN/CGF supporter and CRPA Member. Time to put your money where your mouth is.

                            Current goal; become a Appleseed Rifleman.

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                            • sixoclockhold
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 4040

                              Originally posted by mindwip
                              Is the stock market gives up all gains for the year it's ahead of gold and silver still....

                              And since it has been up the only way to sell the stock is to have others to buy it, lots of people are happily selling there stocks
                              Sorry to tip over your Kool-Aid but Gold has outperformed the S&P 500 over the last 10 years by a long shot.

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                              • mindwip
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1576

                                Hum did not realize I said 10 years.
                                NRA Member and Pistol Instructor, CGN/CGF supporter and CRPA Member. Time to put your money where your mouth is.

                                Current goal; become a Appleseed Rifleman.

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