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  • twinfin
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1109

    Random lessons from Hurricane Helene

    I’ve been digging deep for stories from those who survived hurricane Helene looking for those actually talking about what they did to survive and get by in the aftermath of this historic storm. There’s endless footage and commentary on the destruction but actual intelligence on the implementation of preparations and coping strategies was a bit harder to come by. At some point, you have to get past the imagery of destruction and get to the real stories of how people coped so that lessons can be learned and our own personal preparation strategies and supplies can be refined. I did find a few nuggets here and there and thought I’d pass on what survivors are saying about their experience.

    None of this should be new on this forum but here goes:

    Fuel: Many reported not anticipating the length of time they would be without power and found themselves lacking sufficient fuel for their generators by days 4 to 7 when grid power was still out. As roads opened up and travel became possible, hours long lines were the norm wherever fuel was available and $25 dollar limits on fuel purchases seemed to be the norm.

    Cash: Credit card processing, ATM’s and debit card service went down when communication networks went down so stores were operating on a cash only basis. Stores were not accepting checks either. Lots of people take great pride in never using cash but that bit those who didn’t have hard currency on hand.

    A.M. radio: Many commented on how stressful it was to not have access to any information. With roads washed out and power, internet and cell service down for protracted periods of time, A.M. radio became the sole source of information gathering until cell and internet slowly came back online days later. HAM radio became another source of local information. Even if you’re not a HAMster, you can still listen in on local HAM radio traffic.

    Morale: Several commented on how important it was to have some sort of boost to morale such as a hot shower, a cup of coffee, a ceiling fan to offer relief from the heat or some other non-essential comfort. Though prepping starts with the bare essentials, it need not end there. Planning for some comfort items helped boost morale; plan for it.

    Warnings: Hardest hit where not those in the direct path of hurricane Helene but those far inland who were hit with torrential rain at a time that rivers were full and ground already saturated by previous days of rain. Inland locals knew what to expect from distant coastal hurricanes but all were taken by surprise by the historic amount of rain that made it to their far inland locations. Most took the ordinary pre-storm precautions of cleaning out culverts and gutters or perhaps putting some fuel in the generator in anticipation of a short term power outage only to be taken by complete surprise as events unfolded. Many commented on how unprecedented was the amount of rain that came down and the never seen before flooding that ensued. In one area, region wide flash flood warnings put out to cell phones were never received as cell networks had already collapsed by the time weather service flood warnings and call to move to high ground were issued.

    Other random thoughts: Goodwill toward others is at its highest in the immediate aftermath. I have observed this phenomenon first hand in the 3 major disasters I have been in. By day 2 and onward, suffering builds, tempers grow short and the worst comes out of people. As time goes by, increase your security posture in anticipation of this.

    Spare parts should not be overlooked. Chainsaws need fuel, bar oil and sharpening plus at least one spare chain for each saw. Other people found themselves lacking for spare electrical parts when they needed to hook up a well pump to generator power once they ran out of the stored water they thought would be enough to see them through.

    Don’t take unnecessary risks. When access to emergency medical care may not be available, put off certain non-essential storm cleanup tasks like cutting up hazard trees that involve some risk in cutting down where removal is not an immediate need. Stick to doing that which must be done in order to avoid unnecessary injury when access to medical care is cut off.

    Interestingly, a few survivors found themselves in the disaster area while on holiday or road trip. A full tank of gas, some food and water, paper maps and networking with locals on potential alternate routes out of the disaster area favored those who thought of such things.

    Lastly, don’t expect help from the government. Look after your neighbors with special attention to the elderly, children and single parent households. Many commented on how important it was that they were able to band together with their neighbors to share and to strategize and help each other out. Banding together reduced much post disaster stress and fatigue and much was done to improve conditions at the neighborhood level by neighbors helping neighbors.

    Other lessons learned will emerge but these are some that I gathered from those talking about what they specifically did to cope.

  • #2
    user120312
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 4413

    I'm also incorporating some distractions into survival prep, aka 'fun'. Music, games, play. I know survival is serious business but there are a lot of hours in the day, particularly when one is well-prepared and trained. Maintaining morale is important.

    Given my relatively remote location, I never count on access to medical care so prep with that in mind. Your advice about prioritizing risks is well-taken. I do that every day now that I'm older. If I screw up, no one will hear it or me. Safety is Job #1. A recent thread in OT has me re-examining the medical kit. Quite a few tips in that thread.

    ETA, the storm did cause me to consider updating my weather gear. So far I've done well with just a pair of milking boots (knee high) for surf fishing and walking the dunes and creek by the house. However, perhaps it's time to look at chest waders. They're helpful for river fishing as well as protecting clothing in more adverse water conditions. I've found keeping one's clothes dry is very helpful in wet conditions.

    Prayers sent to Helene survivors and those in the path of Milton.
    Last edited by user120312; 10-07-2024, 12:59 PM.

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    • #3
      madland
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 1014

      As far as cash goes..the more you have in smaller bills the better. Having $3000 in all C-notes is going to be hard to get change for.
      It's easier if you have it broken down into some 20s,10s, and lots of 5s and 1s.

      And flashing a wad of 100s could lead to other problems during desperate times.

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      • #4
        jarhead714
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2012
        • 7665

        The same sound wisdom applies today as it did hundreds of years ago; don’t build your house near the crick. Don’t build your house where it is unfit to so much as pitch a tent.

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        • #5
          jyo
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2008
          • 5303

          Don't buy/build your house next to river/creek no matter how appealing it looks! A creek can turn into a raging river overnight... Don't live in a narrow valley bottom where water is channeled into a smaller space! Be aware of living at the bottom of a hill that has had landslides in the past... Plan better---like say, an elevated house in areas known to flood.
          Lay in a good supply of water, food, meds, ammo, fuel for generators and vehicles, suitable clothing for bad weather, and don't forget a stash of batteries for flashlights and portable radios...
          Finally, live in a STURDY house---understand, no house is bulletproof, but a sturdy house, with a well-secured roof is an asset that should need no explanation...
          Good luck---you're gonna need it!

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          • #6
            user120312
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 4413

            I noted the neighbor, who has about 1/4 mile of creek downstream of me, brought in a couple hundred tons of boulders and appear to be re-contouring portions of the bank near the main and guest houses. A corporation (meat processor) owns the place so perhaps they are anticipating an unusually wet winter.

            My place has a 8' retaining wall tied into the side block walls and it's in great shape for over 50 years old. I do keep an eye on it. One year we had about 80" of rain, some of it 1 to 2" per day, and it did get a couple feet up on the wall looking down at the gauge I put in. It's kind of a unique creek since we live in the forested dunes with really well drained sand and gravel soil. Still, it pays to monitor things. I note neighbors upstream letting stuff overgrow and not monitoring beaver activity. Beaver dams can create real problems.

            Still, in a decade of really wet weather some years, no issues. I did take some of the pressure off by putting in an elaborate drainage system for the house and driveway to put rainwater runoff through the wall instead of it soaking in behind it. It's amazing what a gusher that can get in good downpours. Glad I put in smooth bore underground instead of the usual corrugated.

            Given the pittance I paid for the place, if things go south I'll turn it into a recreational property. Today's prep is cleaning gutters and settlement boxes in the underground since there's a big storm predicted for tomorrow.

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            • #7
              twinfin
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1109

              Originally posted by jyo
              Don't buy/build your house next to river/creek no matter how appealing it looks! A creek can turn into a raging river overnight...

              …..Finally, live in a STURDY house---understand, no house is bulletproof, but a sturdy house, with a well-secured roof is an asset that should need no explanation...
              Good luck---you're gonna need it!
              As part of one’s pre-purchase research, every county has flood maps that can be viewed to see where various properties are situated as it relates to flooding. I looked at a property once that I was seriously thinking about putting in an offer until I looked at the local flood maps. I walked away from that one.

              As far as building sturdy, amen brother. We put some effort into the construction of our rural home so that it would be fire and storm resistant. Even though we’re on the west coast, we studied Florida’s hurricane building standards to get ideas about how to build with high resistance to wind and wind driven rain. Our roof and siding have the highest ratings for fire resistance. Like you say, not bullet proof but much better than the average of homes around here. Time will tell.

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              • #8
                user120312
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 4413

                I did the same, reviewing flood maps in detail. Shocker, FEMA or whoever does them re-drew them a couple years ago. One way to go from not being in a flood area to being in a flood area regardless of reality. I'm used to it though since my CA business was in the flood plain of the San Joaquin river if Friant Dam went, as are tens of thousands of acres of ag land in the river environs.

                At some point one finds their own balance for risk. I'll risk flood to live in the trees where it's so wet a forest fire can't start, even in summer, or at least hasn't for over a century. The creek, block wall, battery bank and auxiliary water pump are my fallback for that. Stuff is replaceable and largely not essential. Part of good prep IMO is learning what one can live without, and that's plenty 👍

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