Best way to bury guns/ammo for later quickly putting into action?

[Big Chudungus]

I believe the old saw is 'if you think it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them up.' There's a companion to that, something like 'If you think it's time to use your guns, step outside; if you don't see others out with their guns, it isn't time yet.'

I'm thinking "If you think its time you will need your guns, you better hide/bury 1/2 of them".

[echo1]

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[OlderThanDirt]

Long ago I bought a case of SKS rifles, all lightly coated in Cosmoline, wrapped in plastic and packed in a crate. Once cleaned, they were in mint condition. These rifles had been in a crate for decades and cleaned up really fast since the plastic wrap allowed the cosmoline to remain soft.

[Big Chudungus]

I have done this. I bought the rolls of food sealer "bags", I oiled the hell out of a gun, put it in the "bag", vacuum seal, then put that inside a PVC tube with caps glued on the ends. I left it at this, but if you planned on leaving it unattended for many years it may be worth nitrogen purging the O2 out of the PVC tube. Also don't forget that if you are hiding guns - a simple cheap metal detector will find them, so plan for dealing with that. My way (I wanted it easily accessible) was to bury it under the edge of my concrete patio; didn't need to be deep and the rebar in the concrete triggers a metal detector without raising suspicion. Don't forget magazines & ammo.

I have since dug them up and moved to a free state where there is no reason (yet) to hide/bury guns.

what is approximate range of Metal Detectors? I figure a combo of tough terrain and lots of decoys would be the trick. Sprinkle ground with rusty nails and assorted scrap. I don't think regular metal is much "pollution".

I'm thinking Seal-A-Meal custom welded plastic food bags, maybe double layer, would be the trick.

[tacticalcity]

Just temporarily storing guns in the addict proved to be a bad idea. When I retrieved them 3 weeks later there was moisture on them. Did a thorough cleaning and they were fine. But I learned my lesson. If you were to store them by burying underground, they would need to be sealed in something airtight.

[OlderThanDirt]

what is approximate range of Metal Detectors? I figure a combo of tough terrain and lots of decoys would be the trick. Sprinkle ground with rusty nails and assorted scrap. I don't think regular metal is much "pollution".

I'm thinking Seal-A-Meal custom welded plastic food bags, maybe double layer, would be the trick.

A good metal detector can provide a lot of information about buried objects and be programmed to ignore your decoys. The enemy is a portable ground penetrating radar.

https://www.screeningeagle.com/en/products/Proceq-GP8000

[Sailormilan2]

There’s a YouTube video of a long term torture test of a Bear Creek AR that was buried for months (I want to say “6 months”, but that’s shaky.) After it was dug up and what it took to get functional. Surprisingly, it really didn’t take a lot to get going, and did quite well. Though it didn’t look real nice.

[user120312]

Just temporarily storing guns in the addict proved to be a bad idea. When I retrieved them 3 weeks later there was moisture on them. Did a thorough cleaning and they were fine. But I learned my lesson. If you were to store them by burying underground, they would need to be sealed in something airtight.

Thanks for the test. I was thinking of taking ordinary steel, like scrap hydraulic rods (that I saved from my machine shop) which mix raw machined surfaces and chrome plating, and placing them in 4" ABS with sealed (glued) end caps which have ports for a vacuum fitting and then try one plain with no desiccant inside and another with desiccant and vacuum them down with the HVAC vacuum pump to either crush or max for the pump.

I'd be curious if they can take atmospheric pressure on the outside. They should. Then bury them down a foot or so and see what happens with that additional pressure. The purpose of the vacuum is to lower the internal pressure and evacuate moisture similar to what is done in HVAC systems. It would also evacuate moisture from the items placed inside, since wood (my old war guns) holds moisture pretty well, and metal can attract it.

Rust is a real problem where I live since it rains a lot and I can see the ocean from the top of the dunes behind my house. Wet and salty.

[Bigedski]

cosmoline the action, wrap in rust free paper, add desicant packs and add co2 gas and seal in pvc pipe.