Land for Bug out location and shooting camping and hunting

[mtsul]

So This could be the wrong spot. but if you had a choice of where to purchase land be it in California or out of state where would you chose?

Just an Examples:
-$39,900 Hawthorne, NV 89415 (160 acres)

-$50,000 Buzzard Road, Lot#WP001 , Rawlins, WY 82301 (160 acres)

-$73,500 Dryden, TX 78851 (164 acres)

-$149,000 JMAO306 , San Luis, CO 81152 (306 acres)

-$169,000 Secret Valley - Lassen County , Litchfield, CA 96117 (280 acres)

- $199,900 Winnemucca, NV 89445 (644 acres) (I think 10- 15 people should buy this we can all build home's bug out locations and hunt the whole thing)



If Im allowed to ask. On a side Note would anybody be interested in doing a group buy of land for that purpose?

Details:
-it would be % based meaning if you we buy 100 acres in NM for $100 and 4 of us give $20 and 2 give $10 the 4 of us would own 20% each and 80% of the vote and the others would own 10% and 10% of the vote.

-It would be 100 accessible to anyone regardless of % of ownership.

-no Sub-dividing/selling/giving of ownership with out a vote from the group

-if you sell it has to be offered to all current members and approved by the member to sell.

-it can be passed own to family members, (But the idea is for you and your family and friends to enjoy it all the time)


I found a few people years back and we purchased some hunting land same idea as this (We did not know each other before we started talking about it and we ended up doing a group buy of 6 people 3 of us did 25% and the other 3 did 8.4 % each really we had no Issues for several years. a few of us moved away from it and decided to sell it we all made money, Really its everyone agreeing to be being apart of an LLC and doing it the smart way to protect our investment.


I have a house in riverside and a house in Kansas, and property in AZ I am open to purchase it anywhere.

I was thinking depending on how many people are interested on doing a $5,000-$25,000 to keep it affordable (we would split any and all legal fees off the same percentage {%} of ownership)

[twinfin]

I know a group who bought condo in a popular vacation spot and ran it as a sort of time share for the exclusive use of the 10 investors. It was set up as a legal entity and they had a formal system for equitably choosing vacation dates and had a system in place for sharing costs of upkeep etc. It worked out very well and from time to time, some of the investors sold their share at a profit. Last I heard, it was working well and everyone was happy.

Having said that, I'd rather put my own money and resources into something I own and control 100%. There's too much that can go wrong when dealing with others in this sort of thing for my comfort level especially when you mention the word bug-out location.

[mtsul]

I know a group who bought condo in a popular vacation spot and ran it as a sort of time share for the exclusive use of the 10 investors. It was set up as a legal entity and they had a formal system for equitably choosing vacation dates and had a system in place for sharing costs of upkeep etc. It worked out very well and from time to time, some of the investors sold their share at a profit. Last I heard, it was working well and everyone was happy.

Having said that, I'd rather put my own money and resources into something I own and control 100%. There's too much that can go wrong when dealing with others in this sort of thing for my comfort level especially when you mention the word bug-out location.

Yea, I understand that, I was very nervous the first time I did a joint venture and I definitely was fortunate it worked out really well.

[user120312]

I would be cautious about anything involving other humans during times of social, political and economic unrest such as are going on now.

If one has a small group in real life who have long history together with a solid track record of cooperation and mutual support, that would IMO be a good foundation for a group hunting/bug out/camping cooperative.

I looked into this back in the 90's in Modoc County due to large tracts of inexpensive land there and found little interest. However, plenty of spec investors picked up small and large parcels so perhaps they knew something I didn't.

Our local cooperative now is ad hoc, neighbors in the canyon helping and looking out for each other and sharing resources. That seems to work, for now. There's a few compounds owned by corporations in Portland and Salem that 'share'. Most of the noise, problems, and disruption stem from those neighbors, not the locals. YMMV.

[CAL.BAR]

OK Op, now I haven't checked each listing you cited, but just based upon the amount of land and the price I will assume that there is NO water and absolutely NO way to live unaided on the parcels you are talking about for any extended period of time. So, what's the point of the "bug out" description? Shooting range, MAYBE, but place to try and LIVE without support? Not likely.

[skilletboy]

I have a friend who has a location in Oregon that will remain unnamed. It's exactly what you describe. It's somewhere east of the Cascade Mountains in OR. If I had the money to buy a place like that I would choose somewhere within 2 hours of a smallish city. Has it's own water. Need at least 50-100 acres.

Would NEVER be in CA. Under no circumstances would it be in CA.

[audiophil2]

I already did this years ago but it's all mine.
Partnerships are always fragile at best.
Liability is a big concern.
Hidden deals are a big concern.

Just find your own land that you can afford and rent it out to people you trust. I'll be putting in septic next winter on my 10 acres and get it prepped for RV access. Water can be hauled in and power would be solar or propane generator.
I'm hoping to cater to MLB spring break folks and snowbirds. Even glamping type stuff.

[MrFancyPants]

I would be cautious about anything involving other humans during times of social, political and economic unrest such as are going on now.

Yep! My family land is for MY family and we will not be sharing it. I don't trust anybody enough other than my immediate family, not even close friends. We already have a considerable spread in middle of nowhere NV, just need to do a little development. Nothing out there yet.

[DaveInOroValley]

I'm in the process of buying in Arizona and so far the price range has been 30-60K for 40 acres depending on where it is. Once I do finalize everything I've already posted that CalGuns members will be welcomed to hunt and shoot on it. The land we've looked at has Deer, Elk and Lions and is covered under the Game and Fish Of Arizona mainly zone 10.

[edgerly779]

We bought above Castaic and have 6 acres with well and off grid solar. We have a range on it and 3 connex boxes. I am adding 500 sq ft to shop. We have a 5k water tank and 7k gallon swimming pool. We are backed up to national forest. Also have a shooting range out back of property. 2kw offgrid solar with hybrid inverter and batteries $1700 bucks.

[harbormaster]

200 islands in the Delta and most are not inhabited. No taxes, no fees, no insurance, no rights either except first come first to defend.

[deckhandmike]

I never understood why people choose bug out locations that are so difficult to survive in. You want someplace warm, with lots of rain. I’d be looking at gulf coast. I want something where fruit just grows, the rains are frequent and close enough to the coast to harvest the bounty of the sea.

I’d also look at coastal Oregon or Washington. Plenty of rain and pretty easy to grow stuff with a greenhouse. The nearby ocean is key.

[Duck Killer]

One word. WATER

You can do anything with water. Without good water the property is useless. Don’t ever buy a property without good water.

[deckhandmike]

The two biggest chores are water and heating. I choose places that do both naturally.

[audiophil2]

I never understood why people choose bug out locations that are so difficult to survive in. You want someplace warm, with lots of rain. I?d be looking at gulf coast. I want something where fruit just grows, the rains are frequent and close enough to the coast to harvest the bounty of the sea.

I?d also look at coastal Oregon or Washington. Plenty of rain and pretty easy to grow stuff with a greenhouse. The nearby ocean is key.

That's probably why I bought a house in a farm community in Thailand for $9000.
It has city water and sewer, power, and cell reception. It's 1/4 mile from the base of a mountain.
Has over 20 different fruit trees on the land and I can walk along the road to pick other fruit.
Lots of free food all around. My girls dad fishes almost every day and pulls in 7-10lb fish. In rain season he collects small fish and crabs in the rice fields. The locals have caught me sane and monitor lizards for lunch. At any time you will sleep chickens, ducks, goats, sheep, cows, and buffalo. You just barter or pay for it.

Some of us are way ahead in the game.