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  • Calishinobi
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2017
    • 48

    Livestock

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    sealocan
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2012
    • 9942

    That's the smart long-term move but I think people either don't have the room or they're so used to buying groceries that they might not be ready to harvest even rabbits on a regular basis.
    I think starting with chickens and having fresh eggs is the easiest for most people to start with.

    I'll also suggest fish to add to your list.
    The one I know about is tilapia. They they can be grown in small kid size pools or turn your old goldfish / Koi pond into something you can harvest and eat.
    I've had them for pets in large aquariums and they aren't fussy eaters and grow quickly, reaching breeding size in no time at all.
    I was feeding fish food but I think they would probably would eat almost any edible food waste and they can multiply and grow quicker than other fish.
    I had four in my fish tank but because they're good parents and keep their young babies in their mouth for protection so most make it to adulthood. I had to find new homes for those multiplying fish all the time.

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    • #3
      tsmithson
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 1580

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      • #4
        Bionerd
        Member
        • Aug 2016
        • 344

        Quail are very easy. Specially if you don't have land.

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        • #5
          J.R.W.
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 558

          95% of America are to lazy to raise live stock even if it would save there lives .

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          • #6
            Epaphroditus
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2013
            • 4888

            Country living FTW!

            Big gardens, livestock and a bartering network with like minded neighbors.

            Living space ... get out if dense urban areas while you can!

            It takes time to establish ones country estate so better get cracking before it's crunch time.
            CA firearms laws timeline BLM land maps

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            • #7
              middleofnowhere
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 579

              I have a piece of land (18 acres) in Riverside Co. that could possibly grow enough vegetation for a couple goats annually. It’s not enough land for a single cow though.

              Where I live now, high desert in San Bernardino County, I don’t get enough vegetation on 2 acres for even a couple rabbits.

              With current inflation, I don’t know if the cost of feed is worth the price per pound of meat yield.

              You can always rely on hunting

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              • #8
                twinfin
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 1098

                Originally posted by Epaphroditus
                Country living FTW!

                Big gardens, livestock and a bartering network with like minded neighbors.

                Living space ... get out if dense urban areas while you can!

                It takes time to establish ones country estate so better get cracking before it's crunch time.
                Amen! Even if raising a cow is not for you, move to where these things are and make friends with the folks who raise them. I don't eat red meat but I'm surrounded by people who raise small herds and often get asked if I want to go in on half a butchered cow.

                Getting out of the city is the best thing we ever did. And yes, it does take time and effort to establish your country home but it's good and noble work. We'll feel it for sure if/when food shortages come but we'll manage that storm far easier than the folks in the city.

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                • #9
                  FeuerFrei
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 7455

                  Originally posted by Calishinobi
                  I see so much emphasis on food preps. People buying up expensive mre style meals and other stuff. Why aren’t people looking into a regenerative food source like livestock ? Consider chickens, goats sheep cattle , rabbits etcetera…. You don’t need a ton of room for chickens and rabbits.
                  This Q has been frequently hashed out here. Search?

                  Most people cannot ween themselves off the easy button lifestyle that comes with city living. Most of their cattle and vegetables come from the communal farm we know as grocery stores. Many know they should get out, but just don't using the excuse du jour.
                  Raising animals in a postage stamp sized back yard in a city generates calls to bureau-rats and fines kill the effort in utero. Raising meat critters literally stinks.

                  *YT makes it look easy to raise animals.
                  It ain't.
                  Last edited by FeuerFrei; 06-27-2022, 7:53 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Duck Killer
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 2032

                    I like raising goats. They eat everything and have babies pretty fast. They are easy and pretty tough. I am just letting the herd grow naturally. I have 8 at the moment. Probably want between 50-100 just for weed control.

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                    • #11
                      deckhandmike
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 8324

                      I use the ocean. It’s super low maintenance and always provides.

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                      • #12
                        FeuerFrei
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 7455

                        Originally posted by Duck Killer
                        I like raising goats. They eat everything and have babies pretty fast. They are easy and pretty tough. I am just letting the herd grow naturally. I have 8 at the moment. Probably want between 50-100 just for weed control.
                        Goats are fantastic weed eaters. Even poison oak.

                        I've tasted free range weed eater and barn yard quasi controlled fed goats and there is a definite difference in flavor. Guess which one tasted better?

                        *billy goats just stink. any mammal that P's on itself as an sexual attractant is practicing an alternate lifestyle or just has a screw loose. maybe both?
                        Last edited by FeuerFrei; 06-28-2022, 8:13 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Calishinobi
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 48

                          I have Nigerian dwarf goats . They produce kids every 6 months and produce really good milk . I sell the boys and keep the girls . Went from 3 goats to 16 in very little time.

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                          • #14
                            squeeze
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1305

                            Boat, maintenance, fuel, insurance, fishing gear etc. Not cheap but are tasty. And for now; available.

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                            • #15
                              KevinB
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 2314

                              We have lots of livestock. Cattle take a lot of land. Raising just one of anything just doesn't work. When you butcher your one animal your herd is gone.

                              Beef prices are pretty good right now and I have good irrigated pasture and leased BLM land. 2 bulls and 60 cows. We have goats hogs and chickens.

                              The price of diesel has made pumping water expensive this year. Dry pasture didn't get much total rain but the late storms kept things green longer than I thought.

                              My goats thrive where a cow will starve to death, hogs are always a pain and Beef tastes better than both of them.

                              We can process all our on animals.

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