Management Plan for Developed Water Sources in Mojave National Preserve

[racinjason233]

Jim Mathews is a great guy and has a pile of maps you wouldn’t believe. He know of every guzzler in CA. I’ll follow up on this to help, but our departure from the commies is now short term...

[Gundiver]

Vote No Action

[Gundiver]

There's nowhere to leave a comment. How do we see the report what isn't a link posted on nps

[rimfired]

The comment period has been extended to May 19, 2018 for the
Management Plan for Developed Water Sources in Mojave National Preserve has .

I'm for maintaining what has already been built. If they do decide to let them go or remove them we should be able to save the sources that are 50 years old or older under the 1906 Antiquities Act.

https://parkplanning.nps.gov/project...rojectID=32532

There's a goldmine of guzzler data there...

[rimfired]

There's nowhere to leave a comment. How do we see the report what isn't a link posted on nps

https://parkplanning.nps.gov/documen...cumentID=86685 Halfway down you'll see a "comment now" button.

[Stevehazard]

Take a wild guess how we fixed guzzlers and water tanks for sheep. By hand, Concrete, epoxy, paint, tar, dirt, lumber, water, tools, wheel barrows. We volunteered to fix what we new should be done. One time we had a small tractor to work with. Either you care and help or you sit on your arse and let others do it. Simple as that. On that note guess how all the hiking trails we follow were made back in the day and are still maintained the same way. It's not the internet out there it's real life seat of your pant's get it the hell done!

I'm aware that a sheep guzzler up a rocky canyon needs to be attended to by hand. Wanting wilderness to make some concessions to permitting some more efficient work or allowing the work period doesn't mean the people that do that kind of work are lazy. In regards to the small game guzzlers in the wilderness from what I read on their on the NPS water report the plan is to abandoned anything inside of the wilderness boundaries, they don't want to allow work period from what I can tell unless I'm missing something.

[Stevehazard]

Vote No Action

Why?
That and alternative 2 are the worst options.

I would say alternative 4 but then comment that there should of been an additional option that included management and repairs of existing small game guzzlers in the wilderness.

[Jimmy's]

I'm aware that a sheep guzzler up a rocky canyon needs to be attended to by hand. Wanting wilderness to make some concessions to permitting some more efficient work or allowing the work period doesn't mean the people that do that kind of work are lazy. In regards to the small game guzzlers in the wilderness from what I read on their on the NPS water report the plan is to abandoned anything inside of the wilderness boundaries, they don't want to allow work period from what I can tell unless I'm missing something.

I know all about the MNP my family of 3 generations and friends were forced to leave it. They are basically kicking everyone out except for lookie loos,tourists There are only two ranchers left and one is on his way out. No miners at all. soon they will have 100% of Hunters out. That is their primary goal right now and will be until it's done. Don't believe me just watch! Ask yourself why they removed all of the wild donkeys and cattle they even talked of eradicating the Deer,Sheep and Chukars and it's still on their agenda. Only recently last few years did they acknowledge/admit there were Mountain lions in the area and physically posted such. California is a very Sad state when it comes to public lands and their uses especially hunting uses. we have 10 acres left that we can't do squat with because of the MNP sanctuary.

[Stevehazard]

I know all about the MNP my family of 3 generations and friends were forced to leave it. They are basically kicking everyone out except for lookie loos,tourists There are only two ranchers left and one is on his way out. No miners at all. soon they will have 100% of Hunters out. That is their primary goal right now and will be until it's done. Don't believe me just watch! Ask yourself why they removed all of the wild donkeys and cattle they even talked of eradicating the Deer,Sheep and Chukars and it's still on their agenda. Only recently last few years did they acknowledge/admit there were Mountain lions in the area and physically posted such. California is a very Sad state when it comes to public lands and their uses especially hunting uses. we have 10 acres left that we can't do squat with because of the MNP sanctuary.

Oh I believe that is somebodies goal. Their water report openly stated they don't care about chukar because they are non native and they mentioned the requests to prohibit hunting... in a water report.

[Gundiver]

Why?
That and alternative 2 are the worst options.

I would say alternative 4 but then comment that there should of been an additional option that included management and repairs of existing small game guzzlers in the wilderness.

Yes all the alternatives have a catch as far as I can see. That's how they word these things. Make you think you need to choose between A and B where really you are free to choose neither.