Sow down

[MJB]

Got this one last Thursday around 6 pm. She stepped into an opening I grunted she stopped then boom flop and slide to the bottom.......

[MJB]

This is why I hate copper look at all the internal damage but yet not one drop of blood or sign of the trauma........the shot was right shoulder blade exit left elbow.....pin hole in and out the rib fragments is what killed her not the bullet. If it was lead her chest would of been wide open with blood everywhere.

Copper sucks for blood tracking

[Shoot-it]

What did you use caliber and bullet weight .you got it that what counts.

[Divernhunter]

I had the same results with a 300win mag and 150gr Nosler partitions. Dead hog and no blood. My daughter and her husband have had that also with a 257R and 100gr and 120gr Swift bullets for her and 150gr Barnes TTSX.

Ask yourself: At what point in the animals death di the bullet fail?

I know people who would complain if there was a big hole and this more meat loss.

Hunting can be a funny thing with people asking so many different things from a bullet and yet wanting the same final result.

I am not trying to insult you. Just an observation of hunters and expectations.

At least you got to hunt. I was stuck at home changing scopes, free floating a rifle and loading ammo for load testing.

[MJB]

Hit lots of bone with copper and your fine.......their is no blood trail like lead.

It was TSX 130gr 270 handload

It's not about the bullet failure it's about shot placement.......bone is king with copper......

My biggest problem with copper......hunters that are new to copper don't know to hit bone first so the bone hits the vitals and creates a big wound channel. Otherwise they will run and theirs very little blood with pin holes in & out.

[Divernhunter]

OK I understand your point of view.

[elk hunter]

OK, let me see if I have this right, you fire one shot into a pig it falls down and dies I'm going to guess it's probably dead before you walk to it. The bullet didn't kill the pig, it was bone fragments that killed it. All the coagulated blood in that wound area picture is not blood shot from the bullet? bone fragments did that bloodshot. I also think I understand you hate copper OK but whats the problem with the end result. 1 shot 1 dead animal=whats the problem? By the way that one looks a lot like a good sausage pig to me, Okie style sausage for biscuits and gravy.

[scottz]

Copper kills with expansion and shock trauma to vitals . No need to track it drops hogs on the spot.

[DSMeyer]

This is a no win situation, just like the ford/chevy debate. I've had copper ammo act like lead and lead ammo act like copper.

[stonefly-2]

with bullet performance like that you don't need blood to track the animal.
just use gravity.

[Shoot-it]

Try some 110gr Barnes you might have better expansion.When I had my 270 I was handloading 130 e-tip shot one tight behind should it went ten yards and fell over dead.

[Divernhunter]

DSMEYERS and elk hunter that is one of my reasons for backing out of the whole thing after getting the reaction I got.
Both of you and I are on the same wave length so to speak.
Shoot-it--That must be something you learned from me You are on the right track even if you do not give me credit.

After the crap I put up with from another poster who rarely posts on another subject I just felt it was easier to just walk away than try to show where they are wrong. Not worth the time or trouble.

[DSMeyer]

DSMEYERS and elk hunter that is one of my reasons for backing out of the whole thing after getting the reaction I got.
Both of you and I are on the same wave length so to speak.
Shoot-it--That must be something you learned from me You are on the right track even if you do not give me credit.

After the crap I put up with from another poster who rarely posts on another subject I just felt it was easier to just walk away than try to show where they are wrong. Not worth the time or trouble.

Yup, that and the other campfire war of which caliber/rifle is a better "insert your animal" killer. Knock on wood, I haven't chased animals I've shot further than 20-25 yards. Most of the time you hear the whack, the animal jumps and/or flops over right there.

[God Bless America]

Got this one last Thursday around 6 pm. She stepped into an opening I grunted she stopped then boom flop and slide to the bottom.......

where did you get it?

[ASD1]

where did you get it?

He already told you. "In an opening"