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  • problemchild
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    • Oct 2005
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    Patriot Nurse on drug shelf life

  • #2
    OHOD
    I need a LIFE!!
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2009
    • 11047

    I have some thoughts...

    1. Interesting video.
    2. What's with the glasses?
    3. I asked this same question to an MD and here is what he said..."It isn't that the drugs become ineffective, it's that over time there continues to be a chemical reactions in the drug that create harmful results." He did not say what those results are, but I would think that you could count on one of the following outcomes...

    a. Chemical reactions create a byproduct that is tolerated by the body and is metabolized through the liver and kidney.
    b. Those that have compromised renal and liver function may be affected by these chemicals.
    c. In extreme situations, death may occur.

    What would I do?
    Rotate my stock if it is not cost prohibitive.
    Finally, I would ask anyone...
    Would you rather take newly manufactured Cipro or one that has been on the shelf for 8 years?
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    • #3
      OHOD
      I need a LIFE!!
      CGN Contributor
      • Jan 2009
      • 11047

      Thanks for posting.
      That was an interesting video.

      Again, what's with the glasses?
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      INGSOC comes to America.
      Sip your Victory Gin folks, time's are a changin'

      Time it was, and what a time it was, it was
      A time of innocence, A time of confidences
      Long ago, it must be, I have a photograph
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      • #4
        Joewy
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 2550

        Originally posted by OHOD
        I have some thoughts...

        1. Interesting video.
        2. What's with the glasses?
        3. I asked this same question to an MD and here is what he said..."It isn't that the drugs become ineffective, it's that over time there continues to be a chemical reactions in the drug that create harmful results." He did not say what those results are, but I would think that you could count on one of the following outcomes...

        a. Chemical reactions create a byproduct that is tolerated by the body and is metabolized through the liver and kidney.
        b. Those that have compromised renal and liver function may be affected by these chemicals.
        c. In extreme situations, death may occur.

        What would I do?
        Rotate my stock if it is not cost prohibitive.
        Finally, I would ask anyone...
        Would you rather take newly manufactured Cipro or one that has been on the shelf for 8 years?
        I took Cipro in Africa that had been expired for 9 years. A pack of 10 cost me 4 dollars. Worked like a champ.
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        • #5
          mcsoupman
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 685

          PC, great link brother! I am glad someone is looking into that stuff.

          OHOD, I don't think anyone will argue with you about would you rather have new or older. The argument is really how often do I have to rotate and at what cost?
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          • #6
            GrizzlyGuy
            Gun Runner to The Stars
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • May 2009
            • 5468

            Armageddon Medicine is a good blog to read on this topic. She started by guest-posting on SurvivalBlog.com and now does her own thing. A few of the best articles:

            Expired Medications (part 1, part 2, part 3, from her SurvivalBlog days)

            Best Antibiotic Doses to Stockpile

            Multi-use antibiotic for stockpiling: azithromycin

            How to Get Your Doctor to Help You Stockpile Medicine (from her SurvivalBlog days)
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            • #7
              problemchild
              Banned
              • Oct 2005
              • 6959

              Originally posted by OHOD
              Thanks for posting.
              That was an interesting video.

              Again, what's with the glasses?
              Shes hiding her identity.

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              • #8
                OHOD
                I need a LIFE!!
                CGN Contributor
                • Jan 2009
                • 11047

                Originally posted by problemchild
                Shes hiding her identity.
                Hehehehehee
                I'm sure her coworkers have no idea she is doing this.
                I think it's funny.
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                INGSOC comes to America.
                Sip your Victory Gin folks, time's are a changin'

                Time it was, and what a time it was, it was
                A time of innocence, A time of confidences
                Long ago, it must be, I have a photograph
                Preserve your memories; They're all that's left you

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                • #9
                  OHOD
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11047

                  Originally posted by mcsoupman

                  OHOD, I don't think anyone will argue with you about would you rather have new or older. The argument is really how often do I have to rotate and at what cost?
                  Good point.
                  sigpic

                  INGSOC comes to America.
                  Sip your Victory Gin folks, time's are a changin'

                  Time it was, and what a time it was, it was
                  A time of innocence, A time of confidences
                  Long ago, it must be, I have a photograph
                  Preserve your memories; They're all that's left you

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                  • #10
                    Got Stuff?
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 1580

                    Originally posted by problemchild
                    Shes hiding her identity.
                    I would too!

                    Though quite a horrible job in trying to do so though. This stuff scares me and what scares me even more is that some people may take this advice into their own hands and hurt their selves or someone else.

                    I guess it boils down to doing your own research on meds that you use yourself or are planning on using and using common sense.

                    I would agree though that if it came down to taking expired meds or dying, most would make the choice to do what they could to decrease the chance of sure death.

                    I'll leave you with this example. Your gallon of milk expired 4 days ago. Is it still good? The good thing about milk is that it's easy to tell. The bad thing about some meds is that you likely won't know until you have a bad reaction!
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                    • #11
                      problemchild
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 6959

                      Did anyone even watch the video? I see a lot of nagging about this subject and Im thinking no one watched it.

                      SHE CLEARLY STATES WHICH DRUGS ARE SAFE AFTER EXPIRED AND WHICH ARE NOT!!! SHE ALSO CLEARLY STATES THAT THE BURDEN OF SIDE EFFECTS ARE ON YOU. DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST!

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                      • #12
                        xgi1991
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 614

                        Originally posted by problemchild
                        Did anyone even watch the video? I see a lot of nagging about this subject and Im thinking no one watched it.

                        SHE CLEARLY STATES WHICH DRUGS ARE SAFE AFTER EXPIRED AND WHICH ARE NOT!!! SHE ALSO CLEARLY STATES THAT THE BURDEN OF SIDE EFFECTS ARE ON YOU. DO YOUR HOMEWORK FIRST!
                        Agreed, she list the sources, the Army has done extensive research on this, and it is all out there for you to read.

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                        • #13
                          Total Supply
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 17

                          I have seen the video many times and a lot of her other videos (with out glasses) she is all over it like a hobo on a ham sandwich. I have done research and she is right.

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                          • #14
                            donger
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 1560

                            There are specific medications you do not want to take after the expiration date. But on the whole, most medications are safe and effective to take after the expiration date has passed. In fact most can be taken years after the expiration date.

                            Yes, I'm a professional, but don't take this as medical advice, etc, etc.
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                            • #15
                              problemchild
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 6959

                              Originally posted by donger
                              There are specific medications you do not want to take after the expiration date. But on the whole, most medications are safe and effective to take after the expiration date has passed. In fact most can be taken years after the expiration date.

                              Yes, I'm a professional, but don't take this as medical advice, etc, etc.
                              I agree Im taking pills right now that are 8 years after the expiration date and I Ill effects see no NONE ALL AT . None effats notklu at llll i feadl ok

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