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  • smle-man
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2007
    • 10552

    Day hike - survival exercise

    Any excuse to take a hike! I went this week for a day hike and did a bit of survival, E&E, and OUC training. Or at least that is what I told myself. I was in the Angeles NF on a semi abandoned FS road that passes through a campground closed in 2002. Access is by foot or by the FS since they control the gate at each end. Loadout was a day pack with a quart of water, lunch, survival kit, first aid kit, small flashlight, cell phone. I wore a GI pistol belt with M1912 holster and GI web mag pouches with two loaded magazines for the ChiCom T54 in the holster. The belt also had a Kbar knife on it and a quart canteen and cup in a carrier. I had a wood walking staff. Me and the pups crossed that creek 6x in each direction. My boots are waterproof which meant that once water got in, it wasn't coming out!



    The creek was too wide and running too deep to hop across at each crossing. This picture shows the road and the creek which are one and the same at this point. The first 3 times I crossed the boots came off and back on but after that I just waded across. and dumped the water out when I got across. The crossings were slimy and slippery and the walking staff was a great aid for stability.


    In some crossings the water was fast enough that if I had gone down I probably would have gone over the side.

    When we were about a hundred yards from the abandoned campground I smelled smoke faintly. I approached quietly but not doing a Daniel Boone sneak through the area. I saw a primitive campsite way off in one corner and stayed clear. I stayed alert, wrung out my wool socks and enjoyed the warmth. Pretty area and a nice place for a quick lunch.



    Started back as the temperature was starting to come down a bit. The water felt colder going back. A dry pair of sock would have been nice once I was done with the water crossings. I usually carry some but not this time. Lesson learned. Be prepared!

    I met several state workers at the far end of the road close to the closed gate. They greeted me in a friendly way, asked me about my hike, praised the dogs for being good and wished me a good day. No comment about the holster.

    Don't know how much survival training value the hike was but it is a good excuse to talk about a great day!
  • #2
    SLK619
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 579

    Sounds like you had a good trip Minus the wet feet. I plan on doing the same but scout out good areas to hunt some Pigs in San Diego. I'm planning on taking my Side arm as well in the scouting trip to get use to the feel of it while hiking. There is always something to be gained no mater how small the knowledge.

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    • #3
      wjc
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      • Dec 2009
      • 10869

      Sounds like a nice experience. You may want to also consider carrying a map of the area and a compass.
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      • #4
        DeanW66
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        • Oct 2008
        • 5077

        Sounds like a good day. I occasionally do similarly but with different "armaments" lol.
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        • #5
          socalsteve
          Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 274

          Poor mans waterproof boots = breadbags over your socks and then slide into boot.

          At least you'll have dry socks.

          The thin bag they use for the newspaper if you have it deliverred should work too.

          This also works pretty well as the poor mans warm sock since in cold weather it traps the perspiration inside and acts like a wetsuit - better than frost bite toes but you'll need to warm those wet feet or wear wool socks.

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          • #6
            Databyter
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 1100

            Since I lost my job the most workout I get is online surfing for employment and the occasional bike ride. I've noticed last month that I'm getting pretty out of shape, not that I was all that great to start with.

            I used to live in the Country and used to hike for hours every day with my dogs. I miss the heck out of it and along with forcing myself to do daily stretches and cardio, I've invested in a backpack and a day pack, and I'm trying to remember what to put into them, and where I can go, and if It's remote enough If I could go open carry to test out some gear.

            Your post is inspiring.

            Any tips on places to hike within an hour and a half from San Diego would be appreciated. I'm looking for nice trails with few or no people to start out. I need to get my legs and get some sun.

            Packs are kind of expensive. For a day Hike I ended up just getting a laptop pack that was on sale. I like it because it has a well padded and breathable back. But it has no belt or chest straps, that even for a day pack are nice when climbing a rock or jumping across a stream.

            Nice pics.

            p.s. what are the criticals that I should pack along for a day trip?

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            • #7
              desertdweller
              Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 270

              Originally posted by Databyter
              Any tips on places to hike within an hour and a half from San Diego would be appreciated.
              With that much leeway, there are a lot of places.

              Julian area
              Mt. Laguna (near Julian)
              The water falls near Julian:


              And, of course, most of Anza-Borrego. The one that I think is cool is China Camp, just past the Border Patrol checkpoint off S2 in Ocotillo. Walk West on the Rail Road Tracks and after walking about 7 miles, you will have gone through about 8-10 tunnels and seen the trestle bridge:


              There is a train museum near Campo, and one of the guys who works there is the engineer who drives the train over those tracks.
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              If you are by SDSU, then Mission Trails:


              This should get you started.

              EDIT: Sorry, OP, great share! I could see an overnight there.
              Last edited by desertdweller; 01-20-2011, 8:13 AM.
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              • #8
                mschliebs
                Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 470

                Thanks for the photos. They made my morning break.

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                • #9
                  Joser23
                  Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 115

                  sounds like you had a great hike thanks for posting the photos

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                  • #10
                    Deltadude
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 59

                    Looks very scenic and nice. I need to lose 20 lbs and get back in shape too.

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                    • #11
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                      • Aug 2006
                      • 1580

                      Awesome!

                      Time to go on one myself!
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                      • #12
                        Databyter
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1100

                        Originally posted by desertdweller
                        With that much leeway, there are a lot of places.

                        Julian area
                        Mt. Laguna (near Julian)
                        The water falls near Julian:


                        And, of course, most of Anza-Borrego. The one that I think is cool is China Camp, just past the Border Patrol checkpoint off S2 in Ocotillo. Walk West on the Rail Road Tracks and after walking about 7 miles, you will have gone through about 8-10 tunnels and seen the trestle bridge:


                        There is a train museum near Campo, and one of the guys who works there is the engineer who drives the train over those tracks.
                        Dedicated to preserving the railroad history of the pacific southwest and San Diego


                        If you are by SDSU, then Mission Trails:


                        This should get you started.

                        EDIT: Sorry, OP, great share! I could see an overnight there.
                        Thanks those are great resources!. I'm really excited about getting back into some hiking.

                        Anza Borrego is beautiful to me. I love the desert and foothill country. And the Mountain hikes sound great too.

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                        • #13
                          TrailerparkTrash
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 4249

                          Beautiful pics! Made me think how before deer/bear season, I usually go on day hikes as well to scout out the area.

                          On my last day hike, i too took some food, water, knife, ham radio, cell and my favorite.... Springfield M1-A! Yes it was heavy, buy I had also started my physical conditioning and cardio months before the season started. Hiking/scouting with a "heavy" rifle makes my hunting rifle more of a pleasure to carry when the season starts.

                          Also, when hiking in the Angeles Nat'l or San Bernardino Nat'l forest, I don't wanna come across marijuana growers and get taken by surprise. My .308 with 20rnds magazine IS .....the surprise.
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                          • #14
                            smle-man
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10552

                            Originally posted by TrailerparkTrash
                            Beautiful pics! Made me think how before deer/bear season, I usually go on day hikes as well to scout out the area.

                            On my last day hike, i too took some food, water, knife, ham radio, cell and my favorite.... Springfield M1-A! Yes it was heavy, buy I had also started my physical conditioning and cardio months before the season started. Hiking/scouting with a "heavy" rifle makes my hunting rifle more of a pleasure to carry when the season starts.

                            Also, when hiking in the Angeles Nat'l or San Bernardino Nat'l forest, I don't wanna come across marijuana growers and get taken by surprise. My .308 with 20rnds magazine IS .....the surprise.
                            I haven't carried a rifle on my hikes for fear of being accused of poaching by a game warden or FS cop. Ever have any encounters with FS personnel while carrying it and if so, what happened?

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                            • #15
                              Whiterabbit
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 7578

                              Originally posted by Databyter
                              p.s. what are the criticals that I should pack along for a day trip?
                              Survival excercise day hike? water. maybe an energybar and a large pocket knife too. and your best shoes.

                              edit: If I were not a backpacker and needed to get used to carrying an extra 7 pounds on my back for hunting, I'd just carry a backpack of weights or rocks. Cheap old school-type backpack or old worn out computer bag would be more than fine.
                              Last edited by Whiterabbit; 01-23-2011, 12:44 PM.

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