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  • Diablohtr
    Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 161

    Originally posted by MudCamper
    Yes.



    It's not about vehicles. You can't LOC while in a prohibited area. Roads are prohibited areas. In a vehicle or on foot you can't LOC on a road.

    Are fire roads considered "roads"? Going camping in Eldorado NF outside of official campgrounds.

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    • jmpeal
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1215

      Originally posted by Diablohtr
      Are fire roads considered "roads"? Going camping in Eldorado NF outside of official campgrounds.
      Dumb question, but do I need a permit to camp also?

      I was thinking of doing that too in the EDNF outside of Sly Park outside of all of the official campsites..

      Already have a campfire permit..
      Last edited by jmpeal; 05-30-2013, 4:09 PM.

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      • Diablohtr
        Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 161

        Originally posted by jmpeal
        Dumb question, but do I need a permit to camp also?

        I was thinking of doing that too in the EDNF outside of Sly Park outside of all of the official campsites..

        Already have a campfire permit..
        jmpeal, I don't think so. Here is a link to the fire restriction status - be sure to check it before you head up. http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/eldora...fsbdev7_019036

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        • jmpeal
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1215

          Thanks! I did not think so either, but wanted to be sure.

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          • Jason95357
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 1130

            You don't need a permit to camp in an undeveloped area of a NF.
            LTCs: CA, OR, AZ, UT, FL, NV
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            • mls343
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1543

              You DO need a fire permit if you plan on having a campfire though. Otherwise, we still have the freedom to go camping - for now anyways.
              Next to me in the blackness lay my oiled blue steel beauty. The greatest Christmas gift I had ever received, or would ever receive. Gradually, I drifted off to sleep, pringing ducks on the wing and getting off spectacular hip shots.
              - Ralphie from "A Christmas Story"

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              • Jason95357
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 1130

                Originally posted by mls343
                You DO need a fire permit if you plan on having a campfire though. Otherwise, we still have the freedom to go camping - for now anyways.
                Agreed. What's silly is that you can get the fire permit online and just print out the piece of paper. Then what is the point of the fire permit? They are not tracking who they are issued to online (you get a PDF to print and fill out). If it's purely educational, then just have the papers available when you enter the NF and folks can just get their self-issued permit on the way into the NF.

                Take the 4 question quiz and get your NF Fire Permit - a fire permit issued by any California NF is good in all California NFs.
                LTCs: CA, OR, AZ, UT, FL, NV
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                • Diablohtr
                  Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 161

                  They just want to make sure you follow the rules so ya don't burn the forest down.

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                  • Shasta Frog
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 740

                    Because "Only you can prevent forest fires"

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                    • Dstompe
                      Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 169

                      Originally posted by Diablohtr
                      Are fire roads considered "roads"? Going camping in Eldorado NF outside of official campgrounds.

                      Yes. Called el dorado nf the other day and had a long talk about carry laws with the captain. Long story short he just told me what penal code to look at and make my interpretation of the laws. He did however point out some subtleties in that it is illegal to loc on areas where it's not ok to discharge, and that all of the fire roads qualify under this prohibition of discharge.

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                      • Bainter1212
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 5936

                        Quick question guys - I typically UCC when I fish in the NF. I am meeting my buddy on Friday to do some fishing and camping. He would also like to UCC while we are out......he is a NV resident though and he will be bringing his new, off-roster Springfield EMP. Do the penal codes apply equally to non-CA residents??? Don't want him to get screwed over.

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                        • Shasta Frog
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 740

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                          • Jason95357
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 1130

                            Originally posted by Bainter1212
                            Quick question guys - I typically UCC when I fish in the NF. I am meeting my buddy on Friday to do some fishing and camping. He would also like to UCC while we are out......he is a NV resident though and he will be bringing his new, off-roster Springfield EMP. Do the penal codes apply equally to non-CA residents??? Don't want him to get screwed over.
                            There is a thread on here titled Firearms in Forests. Short summary, while travelling to/from a Fishing expedition, you can UCC on your way, and may LCC while fishing.

                            So long as you have a valid fishing license, I don't think it matters what you are, state resident, US citizen, etc.

                            I have no knowledge regarding specific guns (too new).

                            I suggest keeping a printed copy of the PDF document at the above thread with you. I keep it in my fishing license pouch.
                            LTCs: CA, OR, AZ, UT, FL, NV
                            GOA & NRA Member

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                            • Brahmus
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 1

                              This may have already been mentioned (I didn't read all 600 posts) but if you have a valid fishing license you can hunt for reptiles and amphibians. So I would imagine that as long as fishing is legal on the land you are on you could carry as long as you had your fishing license. Could be a good way to extend loaded carry from your kayak to the car, etc.

                              Thanks for this great site.

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