Firearms in Forests and Parks

[mej16489]

I haven't read the entire thread but did see this in PC 26350. Does this change People v. Clark. If I'm getting it wrong, don't jump my poo.

When I'm going to the range, where is the ammo supposed to go?

The section you quoted is irrelevant to the People v Clarke decision.

You missed the next section of 26350. Note the words I've bolded. That definition would only apply if you had the handgun illegally. i.e. you're a felon, or you're in possession of a stolen gun, etc

When you're going to range, it doesn't matter where the ammo is as long as it is not in a gun and not in a magazine which is in a gun.

26350.
(2) A violation of subparagraph (A) of paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment, if both of the following conditions exist:

(A) The handgun and unexpended ammunition capable of being discharged from that handgun are in the immediate possession of that person.

(B) The person is not in lawful possession of that handgun.

[ExcuseMe]

Does anyone know if Desolation Wilderness is considered a National Forest?

[paul0660]

Does anyone know if Desolation Wilderness is considered a National Forest?

It is within the Eldorado National Forest.

[ExcuseMe]

It is within the Eldorado National Forest.

Thanks!

[ExcuseMe]

Welp, I just bought a nice thigh holster for my 1911. After reading this thread, I have no idea if I can UOC in Desolation Wilderness or not. I wrote a letter to Gov Brown, so I'm sure he'll get back to me in a timely manner and set things straight. As soon as he does, I'll let you guys know.

[sl0re10]

"*1 - UOC of handguns is not legal in NPs effective 1/1/12 as a result of AB144 (PC 26350)"

So does this mean handguns are just not ok period in NPs?

[MudCamper]

Welp, I just bought a nice thigh holster for my 1911. After reading this thread, I have no idea if I can UOC in Desolation Wilderness or not. I wrote a letter to Gov Brown, so I'm sure he'll get back to me in a timely manner and set things straight. As soon as he does, I'll let you guys know.

They must post closures. I see none in either the EDNF page nor the Desolation Wilderness page, so you can UOC, and also LOC in non-prohibited areas (most of the wilderness). You may want to call the local ranger station and ask if there are any shooting restrictions posted for the Wilderness. If there are, that would trigger a prohibited area. Of course you can LOC and LCC in your campsite regardless.

[MudCamper]

"*1 - UOC of handguns is not legal in NPs effective 1/1/12 as a result of AB144 (PC 26350)"

So does this mean handguns are just not ok period in NPs?

No. With a CCW permit you are good to LCC (except in federal facilities). Otherwise you need to keep it cased when transporting, like most of California. And you may LCC or LOC in your campsite.

[Jungleboxx]

So

No. With a CCW permit you are good to LCC (except in federal facilities). Otherwise you need to keep it cased when transporting, like most of California. And you may LCC or LOC in your campsite.

If I understand this thread correctly, if I am going on a 5 day backpacking trip in a NP I may LOC in my campsite, but not while travelling. While travelling I must LUC? As in locked, unloaded, and cased?


But if I am in NF it is okay to LOC so long as I am not in a vehicle?

I really appreciate all you put into this thread and have read it, just want to make sure I don't miss a detail and go bye bye.

So many different laws it's insane!!

[MudCamper]

If I understand this thread correctly, if I am going on a 5 day backpacking trip in a NP I may LOC in my campsite, but not while travelling. While travelling I must LUC? As in locked, unloaded, and cased?

Yes.

But if I am in NF it is okay to LOC so long as I am not in a vehicle?

It's not about vehicles. You can't LOC while in a prohibited area. Roads are prohibited areas. In a vehicle or on foot you can't LOC on a road.

[lakersandguns]

Ok going to Mammoth, what's the deal? Do i need to carry or can i carry. Never been their.

[ExcuseMe]

Ok going to Mammoth, what's the deal? Do i need to carry or can i carry. Never been their.

What are you doing in Mammoth? You're need is determined by you. But when I'm in Mammoth, I've never felt the need to carry.

[lakersandguns]

Brother in law rented a cabin. Going for the weekend. Like i said, I never been their. Been to yosemity. At yosemity had an encounter with coyote. Came to close to us.

[MudCamper]

What are you doing in Mammoth? You're need is determined by you. But when I'm in Mammoth, I've never felt the need to carry.

Some of us choose to carry whenever legally possible. If not for the county that I reside in, I'd carry always.

Brother in law rented a cabin. Going for the weekend. Like i said, I never been their. Been to yosemity. At yosemity had an encounter with coyote. Came to close to us.

A coyote isn't going to hurt you. It's the 2-legged predators you need to look out for.

[onewheelwes]

Brother in law rented a cabin. Going for the weekend. Like i said, I never been their. Been to yosemity. At yosemity had an encounter with coyote. Came to close to us.

Mammoth is kind of funny, populated by a bunch of ex LA Libs. I was there for work for a few months and found exactly one store that sells ammo. It was out of sight behind the counter in a closed cabinet. Most of the area is posted no shooting, but I did find a really nice spot slightly east of mammoth where there is a unregulated range. I could probably find it on google earth if you are interested.