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  • #16
    target_shot
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    • Jul 2015
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    Does the "Emerson Wave" classify as anything other than a folding blade? No spring assist on the knife....was told by an LEO it was a switchblade


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    • #17
      Librarian
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      Originally posted by target_shot
      Does the "Emerson Wave" classify as anything other than a folding blade? No spring assist on the knife....was told by an LEO it was a switchblade


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      The Emerson Wave Shaped Feature is a patented and trademark designed by Ernest Emerson and Mary Emerson. It is identified by the distinctive "hook" shape at the top of the blade. Learn More.


      I suspect those knives have a 'bias towards closure' when closed; the wave feature on its own does not create a 'switchblade'. Pockets are not part of the knife.
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      • #18
        MountainDew
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        • Feb 2013
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        Originally posted by target_shot
        Does the "Emerson Wave" classify as anything other than a folding blade? No spring assist on the knife....was told by an LEO it was a switchblade


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        Your first mistake was taking legal advice from an LEO and not a LAWYER.
        "This guy, Jackson DKMG, Jackson's 'buddy' or shill, and the guys from Ares should all get together and have a BBQ. They could even make some goofy YouTube videos together."

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        • #19
          target_shot
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          • Jul 2015
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          Originally posted by MountainDew
          Your first mistake was taking legal advice from an LEO and not a LAWYER.


          He is a coworker of mine, which is why I was surprised. Not a gun guy though....
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          • #20
            wpod
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            • Apr 2014
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            On my Karambit, that's not a finger hole, it's a lanyard loop.


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            • #21
              MountainDew
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              • Feb 2013
              • 380

              Originally posted by target_shot
              He is a coworker of mine, which is why I was surprised. Not a gun guy though....
              Regardless, LEO's have a specific job as do lawyers. Do not confuse the jobs they do--many have and are behind bars because of it.

              Think of it this way you wouldn't use a hammer to chop wood you would use a hatchet. Just because they look similar and sometimes the hammer will break off a piece of wood doesn't mean it should be used in that situation.
              "This guy, Jackson DKMG, Jackson's 'buddy' or shill, and the guys from Ares should all get together and have a BBQ. They could even make some goofy YouTube videos together."

              --TonyNorCal

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              • #22
                target_shot
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                • Jul 2015
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                Good to know, thanks guys


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                • #23
                  jbar106
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                  • Oct 2013
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                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  Yes.

                  Think Swiss Army Knife and similar - non-locking blades.
                  But this only pertains to knives carried in the open position? A locking folder carried in the closed position should be legal. The dirk/dagger clause is referring to readily available stabbing weapons, not folded knives, correct?

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                  • #24
                    Librarian
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                    • Oct 2005
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                    Originally posted by jbar106
                    But this only pertains to knives carried in the open position? A locking folder carried in the closed position should be legal. The dirk/dagger clause is referring to readily available stabbing weapons, not folded knives, correct?
                    Yes - but that's 'general' carry; have to obey different law for schools: k-12 bans folders than can lock.
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                    • #25
                      Sizzlechest
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                      • Aug 2014
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                      Im a Bit confused here. So Can I take my 2.5 Inch Ken Onion Knife while dropping of my Kid at school or not. It uses thumb pressure to open.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by Sizzlechest
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                        Im a Bit confused here. So Can I take my 2.5 Inch Ken Onion Knife while dropping of my Kid at school or not. It uses thumb pressure to open.
                        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                        • #27
                          56huck
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                          • Jun 2013
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                          The switchblade definition is hard to follow, for me
                          Is a Benchmade folding knife the locks open and has a lever that can be engaged to flip open the knife considered a switchblade?
                          Is it reasonable to assume a knife purchased retail in CA is legal in CA?

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                          • #28
                            Librarian
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                            Originally posted by 56huck
                            The switchblade definition is hard to follow, for me

                            1) Is a Benchmade folding knife the locks open and has a lever that can be engaged to flip open the knife considered a switchblade?

                            2) Is it reasonable to assume a knife purchased retail in CA is legal in CA?
                            1) No. Close it, and just before you get all the way to the handle, let the blade go. It'll continue to drop back to the closed position - that's the 'bias towards closure' that makes it NOT a switchblade. (If yours doesn't do that, leave it at home!)

                            2) Mostly. Switchblades are legal to own, and 1.99" blade switchblades are legal to sell. But sellers can be prosecuted for selling illegal stuff, so almost none of them do that knowingly.
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                            • #29
                              56huck
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                              • Jun 2013
                              • 152

                              Great description. Thank you. Mine has a bias towards closure as you described
                              I went to visit the USS Constituion in Cambridge Mass last fall. security wouldn't let me in with my knife. They said it was illegal because it was over 2" - a concealed weapon
                              Later we visited the USS Nautilus on a Navy base. They had no problem with my knife. So you can't see a wooden sailboat with a knife, but you can have free run of a nuclear sub.

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                              • #30
                                sirr6
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                                • Jun 2008
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                                I read on some knife site that it's legal to have a switchblade/butterfly/OTF knife in your home. As long as it's not on your person. Is this true?

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