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  • #16
    jmlivingston
    Moderator Emeritus
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 5095

    Originally posted by ACP.45.45.45
    It MUST be more than 50 years old. Items dated 1958 or later are NOT C&R in California.
    You're pretty much right on except for the above part.

    California does not attempt to define, nor refine, what it means for a firearm to be a Curio or Relic. In fact California strictly refers to the Fed's for that definition even within the California Penal Code.

    Any C&R firearm, even if less than 50 years old, is still a federally classified C&R and must be entered into the bound book if acquired or disposed of by an FFL03 licensee. Such a bold statement as yours above implies that these are not C&R classified firearms if they are in California (and as such not necessary to be logged) and that simply is in not the case.

    John

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    • #17
      hawk1
      In Memoriam
      • Dec 2005
      • 7555

      I am still at a loss as to why it would be good to have a C&R for this Python?
      I am thinking it doesn't make any difference.
      sigpicNRA LIFE MEMBER

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      • #18
        ke6guj
        Moderator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Nov 2003
        • 23725

        A C&R FFL would not help a CA-resident aquire this Python if shipped in. The only way it would help is if the person also had a COE, then he could cash-and-carry from the 01 after he paid the DROS, no 10-day wait.
        Jack



        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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        • #19
          joe_lafrieda
          Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 240

          Other than for general interest, why are we still talking about this Python? The auction ended last Monday, and the gun does not appear to have been relisted.

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          • #20
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by joe_lafrieda
            Other than for general interest, why are we still talking about this Python? .
            Exactly, knowledge about the process getting a C&R pistol is more important than that particular Python.
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #21
              CenterX
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 1721

              Suggestion

              Originally posted by ke6guj
              Exactly, knowledge about the process getting a C&R pistol is more important than that particular Python.
              So, How about a sticky on the concise list of the steps, regs, etc. needed in order to bring any off-list concealable firearm made between 1898 and 1958?

              Regardless of C&R status or not.

              A person that has actually done this with proven success should prepare the sticky.
              sigpic
              - Aut Pax Aut Bellum - Volunteer LDW

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              • #22
                popgun
                Member
                • Mar 2005
                • 359

                GM4spd is right, regarding the grips being incorrect for the above Python! They should be the fully checkered grips!

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                • #23
                  hawk1
                  In Memoriam
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 7555

                  Originally posted by CenterX
                  So, How about a sticky on the concise list of the steps, regs, etc. needed in order to bring any off-list concealable firearm made between 1898 and 1958?

                  Regardless of C&R status or not.

                  A person that has actually done this with proven success should prepare the sticky.
                  You really don't need a sticky because the process is no different than if you were bringing in a regular roster'd handgun. The receiving FFL would note in the DROS that the handgun was exempt from the list being a C&R or over 50 years.
                  sigpicNRA LIFE MEMBER

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