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  • Nocturne
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2020
    • 11

    So if a person just joined this forum or has low post counts, he's automatically labeled as a fraud or untrustworthy? This is like most jobs wanting a person with experience. If you don't give someone a chance how's he supposed to get the experience?

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    • 63 tango
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 1014

      Originally posted by Nocturne
      So if a person just joined this forum or has low post counts, he's automatically labeled as a fraud or untrustworthy? This is like most jobs wanting a person with experience. If you don't give someone a chance how's he supposed to get the experience?
      Ive bought from and sold to new guys without issue, most are not scammers. Its usually easy to tell.

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      • Garv
        RSG Minion, Senior
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2014
        • 8999

        Originally posted by Nocturne
        So if a person just joined this forum or has low post counts, he's automatically labeled as a fraud or untrustworthy? This is like most jobs wanting a person with experience. If you don't give someone a chance how's he supposed to get the experience?
        Originally posted by 63 tango
        Ive bought from and sold to new guys without issue, most are not scammers. Its usually easy to tell.
        Most of us give new guys a chance.

        Sometimes you need to chat a bit more to make sure they have their stuff together for a weapon purchase like all their documents and FSC are in place.

        When they are zero iTrader and ask for money up front, the odds are extremely high they are scammers.

        Also if they PM you and say email "so and so" he has it, almost certainly a scam.

        FTF is usually not a big deal.
        Last edited by Garv; 08-22-2020, 11:00 PM.
        Originally posted by Kestryll:
        It never fails to amuse me how people get outraged but fail to tell the whole story in their rants....

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        • gecko82
          Member
          • Dec 2016
          • 105

          Originally posted by Garv
          Most of us give new guys a chance.

          Sometimes you need to chat a bit more to make sure they have their stuff together for a weapon purchase like all their documents and FSC are in place.

          When they are zero iTrader and ask for money up front, they odds are extremely high they are scammers.

          Also if they PM you and say email "so and so" he has it, almost certainly a scam.

          FTF is usually not a big deal.
          ^this

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          • SkyHawk
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2012
            • 23471

            Originally posted by Nocturne
            So if a person just joined this forum or has low post counts, he's automatically labeled as a fraud or untrustworthy?

            YES - 9999 times out of 10000 if he is responding to a want to buy ad and says he "knows a guy", he is a fraud and untrustworthy.


            Originally posted by Nocturne
            This is like most jobs wanting a person with experience. If you don't give someone a chance how's he supposed to get the experience?

            That's exactly what a new guy scammer would say




            Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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            • anthracite
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2020
              • 996

              Originally posted by Nocturne
              So if a person just joined this forum or has low post counts, he's automatically labeled as a fraud or untrustworthy? This is like most jobs wanting a person with experience. If you don't give someone a chance how's he supposed to get the experience?
              Just be polite and members here will reciprocate.

              I've only been on the forum for a week and I have had plenty of pleasant interactions with people on here.
              Have any Real Estate and/or Mortgage related questions? Over 15 years of Residential, Commercial, Investment, Management, & Land Experience. Primarily help Veterans. Shoot me a PM.

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              • zack1631
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 36

                Can confirm this guy is a scammer. Account created just days ago. Responded to my WTB in broken English and requested money prior to transfer. Also, a Gen 5 for $400? [emoji23]

                Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
                "The issue of gun ownership, and the obsessive, nay hysterical, arguments over it, leave most non-Americans totally baffled." "We mean - it is just a hunk of metal that can kill people... So are cars. Either ban them too, or get over it."

                I say "ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ"

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                • eddie666
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2020
                  • 18

                  I'll take it!

                  (jk)

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                  • vfxdude
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2020
                    • 96

                    BEWARE: New Scammer "kevingair"

                    Apologies in advance for the long thread!

                    This new Calgunner scam approach is posting in the Marketplace - "Private Firearms Sales - Handgun" section, not combing through the WTB threads.

                    Kevingair joined in Feb 2020, his only 3 posts which were for 3 guns for sale at really low prices in 3 separate threads.

                    He claims to be in Texas but is willing to sell and ship to California: "Moved to TX but can ship back to CA through FFL"

                    Besides the really low pricing, what concerned me was his posting two separate threads apparently selling the same gun without acknowledging it:

                    - Sig P229 Enhanced Elite for $700 went on sale 8/7, was never marked "sold":



                    - then another Sig P229 Enhanced Elite for $600 - this one went on sale today - 8/31:

                    "I shot about 1000 rounds through this Sig without a single issue. Looks and works like new. IMO this is the best pistol you can buy in CA. Comes with box and two 10 rd magazines. This is the Enhanced Elite model which comes with a short reset trigger, sig night sites, and an extended beaver tail. These are $1200 + tax new. Cheers!"


                    I searched his profile and found he only had one other post - which was:

                    - Glock 17 Gen 3 for $500, went on sale today (8/31):

                    "This pistol comes with two 10rd Magpull mags, 2 10 round Glock mags, and the original box. Custom stipple job in the "sprinkes" pattern, agency arms upgraded trigger, Trijicon HD XR sites and extended mag release and slide stop lever along with a Magpull magwell. Pistol has about 500 rounds through it without any issues."


                    One CGer said that he stopped communicating when he declined to send him money via Venmo. Another CGer suggested they meet in a few days since he was driving through Texas - no response.

                    I asked him to please explain the multiple P229 posts - no response.

                    I would post links to the threads but all of his posts were just removed by the Mods who clearly concerned.

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                    • dlu04
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 724

                      Beware of "jaysmooth996"

                      This trickster is still around. He sent me a PM advising he inherited his deceased father's Ruger LCP II - selling it for $250. I asked him where he was located... Provo, Utah, California. Clues - English grammar, became CG member date of my post, no history of entries or transactions and no clue about geography.

                      Caveat Emptor

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                      • JPeters243
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2020
                        • 3

                        Scammer asking for digital down payment.

                        Mick Brett - 504-534-5175
                        Mickdrett@yahoo.com

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                        • voo4mvp
                          Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 129

                          Beware of this clown, Burger Joe. Replied to my WTB ad, clearly doing the same tactic similar to other scammers.
                          Attached Files

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                          • Excommunicado
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 794

                            That's why I run credit checks on you Newbies . Welcome to the forum



                            Originally posted by Nocturne
                            So if a person just joined this forum or has low post counts, he's automatically labeled as a fraud or untrustworthy? This is like most jobs wanting a person with experience. If you don't give someone a chance how's he supposed to get the experience?

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                            • MuayThaiJJ
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2020
                              • 1333

                              Scammer alert, PMing WTB ads: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/member.php?u=333892
                              YouTube Channel: Nick Shoots Stuff
                              Diablo Rod and Gun Club
                              03-FFL and COE Holder
                              CMAT GMAU

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                              • Antmn88
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2019
                                • 60

                                Hello just wanted to give CG a warning on seller junbug815. We had agreed on a price and day to set up ppt for a shield he was selling. Seller then went ghost and stopped responding to me texts. So I messaged on cal guns seeing if the firearm was still available and received a message back stating it was but that the owner wanted to raise the price $150 more than our agreed upon price. Seems very flakey and sketchy that this person all of a sudden isn't the person/owner selling the firearm. Buyer beware!

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