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  • Masada86
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 126

    Originally posted by TheTargetMan
    Do you have a link to those charts? I'd be curious to see it. Everything I have seen shows a muzzle velocity of ~3240 FPS. After decay, I can't imagine it slowing down that much in 20 yards, but I have been wrong before.

    After several personal conversations with you, you know I'm not defending TFU one bit. Just pointing out the facts as I know them. Again, I could be wrong.



    Incorrect Sir. Do some research on Level III armor. They are not meant to stop all rounds at any distance. Sorry.
    I found the charts by goggling them. But I'm taking these pictures down, I posted them against my better judgement.

    ****EDIT****

    I'm taking these down, because i posted these against my better judgement. It's not in my nature to bad mouth another business, but when I get screwed over by someone like TFU I want people to know who they are dealing with and what a liar he is. To anyone that cares, this guys is a fraud and a liar here is a permanent record of how he will screw people out of their money only to come back later and make up some wild story about why he couldn't do deliver. It's a pattern, and can be found all over the internet and on this forum if people will just stop and look.

    I can personally say that his car has looked like the pictures since April when I stated working with him. And this is not the first time he's taken other peoples money to finance something, but I found out the hard way, as some here have.

    But I guess some will just have to find out the hard way.

    just look at the threads here to see the pattern. More can be seen on the internet of this guys history. Patterns of theft, fraud and lies...

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    • henmar77
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1813

      Originally posted by Masada86
      I found the charts by goggling them. But I'm taking these pictures down, I posted them against my better judgement.

      ****EDIT****

      I'm taking these down, because i posted these against my better judgement. It's not in my nature to bad mouth another business, but when I get screwed over by someone like TFU I want people to know who they are dealing with and what a liar he is. To anyone that cares, this guys is a fraud and a liar here is a permanent record of how he will screw people out of their money only to come back later and make up some wild story about why he couldn't do deliver. It's a pattern, and can be found all over the internet and on this forum if people will just stop and look.

      I can personally say that his car has looked like the pictures since April when I stated working with him. And this is not the first time he's taken other peoples money to finance something, but I found out the hard way, as some here have.

      But I guess some will just have to find out the hard way.

      just look at the threads here to see the pattern. More can be seen on the internet of this guys history. Patterns of theft, fraud and lies...
      All i can say is there must be some truth to it since he doesn't care to respond or defend himself. Still haven't got a peep from him personally.
      sigpic "Now then, take your weapons, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me" Genesis 27:3

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      • beatstanfurd
        Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 414

        I cannot speak for all the people that feel wronged by TFU, but I do have to say I've had nothing but good experiences with my two transactions. My first order came a day later than originally expected, but to me it wasn't a big deal. Second transaction was out the day after I placed the order.

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        • Masada86
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 126

          Originally posted by henmar77
          All i can say is there must be some truth to it since he doesn't care to respond or defend himself. Still haven't got a peep from him personally.
          I have no reason to lie, I'm not a vendor here or affiliated with anyone that is. I know Target Man, but only because we had words once and smoothed it all out and he's a good guy that also was mixed up with this crap.

          Originally posted by beatstanfurd
          I cannot speak for all the people that feel wronged by TFU, but I do have to say I've had nothing but good experiences with my two transactions. My first order came a day later than originally expected, but to me it wasn't a big deal. Second transaction was out the day after I placed the order.
          That's the part that makes it hard for people to pass on, TFU will do great for a couple weeks/months then it all goes to hell...it's already happened before on another group buy this year on this forum where he said he got in another accident. Just go look at the threads he's started and search for car accident.

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          • Masada86
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 126

            Originally posted by Ready_eSeVe
            Oh and @targetsfromus! Get in here man, you're getting ripped to shreds. Either deliver these guys plates or get 'em a refund.
            What is there to defend? No one is attacking anyone, only stating the facts. Fact is people ordered product, product has not been delivered and this is not the first time it's happened. The lies have been identified and there's no excuse.

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            • Uxi
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2008
              • 5155

              Are these going to go back in stock?
              "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

              9mm + 5.56mm =
              .45ACP + 7.62 NATO =
              10mm + 6.8 SPC =
              sigpic

              Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis; Jn 1:14

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              • Agent Tikki
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 1217

                Originally posted by Uxi
                Are these going to go back in stock?
                um...you may want to read the whole thread.
                He who does not fear the sword he wields does not deserve to wield it.-Kubo Tite

                Assumption is the Mother of All ****Ups. Speaking of ****ups, where the Hell are all my packages

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                • henmar77
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1813

                  there in stock now. order all you want. you should get them in about, um say...never!
                  sigpic "Now then, take your weapons, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me" Genesis 27:3

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                  • henmar77
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1813

                    Still no gong. Sent my issue via there website about a month ago. Went to their website 1minute ago and its no longer active. I think they finally gave up....time to look elsewhere.
                    sigpic "Now then, take your weapons, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me" Genesis 27:3

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                    • NRai2001
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 904

                      So I assume armor plates and plate carriers are not illegal in ca??Do you have to be a LEO? Any recommendations on legitimate places to purchase plates?? I m currently in SoCal ..

                      Thanks!
                      Last edited by NRai2001; 09-18-2012, 8:58 PM.
                      WTB:
                      TAVOR
                      SCAR 17
                      Benelli m4/m2

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                      • yetii
                        Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 225

                        Originally posted by NRai2001
                        So I assume armor plates and plate carriers are not illegal in ca??Do you have to be a LEO? Any recommendations on legitimate places to purchase plates?? I m currently in SoCal ..

                        Thanks!
                        Get your plates from The Target Man, stand up guy with great prices.

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                        • NRai2001
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 904

                          Originally posted by yetii
                          Get your plates from The Target Man, stand up guy with great prices.
                          How do I find the target man? Does he have a website? A store location?

                          Thanks
                          WTB:
                          TAVOR
                          SCAR 17
                          Benelli m4/m2

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                          • yetii
                            Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 225

                            Originally posted by NRai2001
                            How do I find the target man? Does he have a website? A store location?

                            Thanks
                            He is in the vendor section - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/f...play.php?f=283

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                            • Howie_Phelterbush
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 5

                              targetsfromus.com now redirects to http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

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                              • guns4life
                                Veteran Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 4916

                                Originally posted by Howie_Phelterbush
                                targetsfromus.com now redirects to http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx


                                HAHAHAHAHAHA
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