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  • #31
    mt4design
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 683

    Franklin Armory, I'm sure you do a nice bit of business with our CalGuns community. I even purchased a 556 and a 7.62x39 version of your DFM.

    Indeed, I placed my order back in July and I'm still waiting for the 7.62x39 DFM to ship.

    I've been told via email several times that I should be patient.

    It's now November.

    I'd like Franklin Armory to refund the amount I paid for the 7.62x39, including CA State Tax and shipping, immediately.

    Thank you.
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    • #32
      franklinarmory
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Nov 2009
      • 1892

      No problem. You will need to call in the morning or send an email to info@franklinarmory.com.

      We are disappointed that we were not able to deliver in a timely manner on this. Our vendor promised one thing and did not deliver on the 7.62x39 configuration. Ultimately it is our responsibility, and we are happy to honor your request immediately.
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      • #33
        Mesa Defense
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 2172

        Tag for ordering samples.

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        • #34
          AAShooter
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2010
          • 7188

          No .308 yet? DPMS standard.

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          • #35
            franklinarmory
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Nov 2009
            • 1892

            Originally posted by AAShooter
            No .308 yet? DPMS standard.
            It is production. NOT ready yet.
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            • #36
              Bogart
              Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 322

              So i purchased several of these. Just wondering if there is any kind of DOJ letter affirming this option as compliant. Thanks in advance for the reponse.

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              • #37
                phdo
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2010
                • 3870

                Originally posted by Bogart
                So i purchased several of these. Just wondering if there is any kind of DOJ letter affirming this option as compliant. Thanks in advance for the reponse.


                This is a great idea but I don't think it's compliant. What if you take the mag DFM out? Doesn't it become a detachable mag rifle? Unless, you keep the bullet button in there so it's not detachable but isn't the bullet button banned? I think the safest way to use this is to epoxy the mag release so it's not functional.

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                • #38
                  phdo
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                  • Jan 2010
                  • 3870

                  Originally posted by Bogart
                  So i purchased several of these. Just wondering if there is any kind of DOJ letter affirming this option as compliant. Thanks in advance for the reponse.


                  This is a great idea but I don't think it's compliant. What if you take the mag DFM out? Doesn't it become a detachable mag rifle? Unless, you keep the bullet button in there so it's not detachable but isn't the bullet button banned? I think the safest way to use this is to epoxy the mag release so it's not functional.

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                  • #39
                    phdo
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 3870

                    This is a great idea but I don't think it's compliant. What if you take the mag DFM out? Doesn't it become a detachable mag rifle? Unless, you keep the bullet button in there so it's not detachable but isn't the bullet button banned? I think the safest way to use this is to epoxy the mag release so it's not functional.

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                    • #40
                      Bogart
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 322

                      So it sounds like we won't really know until court cases. This is the same for most of these compliance options.

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                      • #41
                        franklinarmory
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1892

                        This has been brought up a few times. Like anything else, there is a right way and a wrong way to use it. There is nothing wrong with opening the action, removing the magazine, replacing the magazine and closing the action.

                        When the DFM is removed, the action must be disassembled. That complies with the law. If you were to remove the magazine, you are still fine since the action is disassembled. Closing the action without the DFM in place would be bad. Don't do that in CA!

                        If any of this bothers you however, just use a standard bolt catch. Then there is no way to remove the DFM with that type of configuration.
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                        • #42
                          franklinarmory
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1892

                          Also, I don't think I've posted this here yet, but the 308 DFMs are in stock.
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                          • #43
                            Malthusian
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 4133

                            Originally posted by phdo
                            This is a great idea but I don't think it's compliant. What if you take the mag DFM out? Doesn't it become a detachable mag rifle? Unless, you keep the bullet button in there so it's not detachable but isn't the bullet button banned? I think the safest way to use this is to epoxy the mag release so it's not functional.
                            If you choose to not register, then you would use the DFM or go featureless

                            A featureless rifle could be made into a legally defined assault weapon
                            Removing the DFM would also meet the legal definition of an assault weapon
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                            • #44
                              franklinarmory
                              Vendor/Retailer
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1892

                              Originally posted by Malthusian
                              If you choose to not register, then you would use the DFM or go featureless

                              A featureless rifle could be made into a legally defined assault weapon
                              Removing the DFM would also meet the legal definition of an assault weapon
                              I had a discussion about this very topic with certain government personnel. Both of us agreed that removing the DFM did not create an AW. However, removing the DFM AND CLOSING THE ACTION was the concern.
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                              • #45
                                GlockN'Roll
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2015
                                • 3630

                                I had a discussion about this very topic...

                                Originally posted by franklinarmory
                                I had a discussion about this very topic with certain government personnel.

                                Both of us agreed that removing the DFM did not create an AW.

                                However, removing the DFM AND CLOSING THE ACTION was the concern.
                                Unless you hop on one leg while chanting obama's name in Swahili on the third Tuesday of months with an R in them...

                                What of bunch of nonsense!

                                Simply a recipe for wide spread non-compliance...
                                Real Californian...

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