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  • #16
    MotoriousRacing
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 1971

    being a millwright could help

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    • #17
      bksa
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 2012

      Originally posted by cbright1
      If I am being honest, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't wonder if there is a better way to make a living.
      I think most people regardless of profession do that as well.

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      • #18
        yari
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 908

        Well if you can put up with a bunch of ego based bull S. Go for it. Every shop ive worked in all the employes were always *****ing about everything. Hence angry machinists. The only way to make $ in the CNC game is to be a programmer. And look to make 25-35 an hour. Best bid is to pay others to machine your own parts.

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        • #19
          kcstott
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2011
          • 11796

          Originally posted by yari
          Well if you can put up with a bunch of ego based bull S. Go for it. Every shop ive worked in all the employes were always *****ing about everything. Hence angry machinists. The only way to make $ in the CNC game is to be a programmer. And look to make 25-35 an hour. Best bid is to pay others to machine your own parts.
          I resemble that remark

          That profession was not healthy for me. I like working on stuff on my own terms now.

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          • #20
            ROOS_HAPPENS
            Member
            • May 2011
            • 105

            NTMA in Ontario would be fine. If you're in the vicinity, San Bernardino Valley College offers extensive courses in machine tool technology, and would probably be better.


            If you have the time to devote to it, a community college would probably give you much more comprehensive knowledge.

            I used to see so many folks who were fresh out of trade schools, like NTMA, who couldn't even sharpen a drill.

            CNC is just robotic articulation of the machining process.

            Learn the basics first.

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            • #21
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57122

              Originally posted by kcstott
              I like working on stuff on my own terms now.
              Same here.
              I used to work an office job for someone else making $25 an hour.
              Now that I work for myself, I make more money while working less hours and do that on my own schedule.
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              • #22
                geedavell
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 1820

                Originally posted by MotoriousRacing
                being a millwright could help
                Bingo!

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                • #23
                  1flhtk4me
                  Member
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 323

                  Originally posted by SimonBirch
                  So, I eventually wanna become a gunsmith in the near future. Im also looking for a career change.
                  Even if you take classes,don't plan on starting out making great money being a machinist.
                  The manual/tool maker part of it is drying up because of CNC's.

                  A shop will most likely start you out by being a machine operator which involves loading and unloading of parts,deburring,and documentation(measuring).

                  The pay would probly about $10-$12 an hour.

                  It takes years to work your way up the ladder and what a shop wants to put into you has a big role.

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                  • #24
                    kcstott
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11796

                    Originally posted by MotoriousRacing
                    being a millwright could help
                    Originally posted by geedavell
                    Bingo!
                    Could not disagree more.

                    Millwrights in Socal are glorified ironworkers. yes some fit the term "outside Machinist" but to get into a job like that and be able to excel at it requires extensive travel.

                    That won't work in this case. I don't think he wants to follow the outages for the power generation industry. Thats a hard life. Good money but a hard life.

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                    • #25
                      Ag_Surfer
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 172

                      Originally posted by 1flhtk4me
                      Even if you take classes,don't plan on starting out making great money being a machinist.

                      The manual/tool maker part of it is drying up because of CNC's.

                      A shop will most likely start you out by being a machine operator which involves loading and unloading of parts,deburring,and documentation(measuring).

                      The pay would probly about $10-$12 an hour.

                      It takes years to work your way up the ladder and what a shop wants to put into you has a big role.
                      sigpic You can beat the rap but not the ride - LEO

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                      • #26
                        geedavell
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1820

                        Originally posted by kcstott
                        Could not disagree more.

                        Millwrights in Socal are glorified ironworkers. yes some fit the term "outside Machinist" but to get into a job like that and be able to excel at it requires extensive travel.

                        That won't work in this case. I don't think he wants to follow the outages for the power generation industry. Thats a hard life. Good money but a hard life.
                        Where did he say he didn't want to travel?
                        No one said it isn't hard work.
                        There are not too many places that a high school grad can make 150K a year.

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                        • #27
                          kcstott
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11796

                          Yep you got to start out at the bottom unless you can come in and prove that you can back up that resume. and then that will just garner a few extra bucks at best.

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                          • #28
                            yari
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 908

                            Lo ya better back it up. Had a mastercam employee write us a program once. Needless to say he couldn't back it up. Boss came in saying what's wrong with the program I say would you like to pay to watch? Broke a 250$ endmill in the first 5 seconds. I got a raise that day.

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                            • #29
                              1flhtk4me
                              Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 323

                              Well I think it's not like it was 10-20 years ago.

                              I do agree with the newer guys not knowing how to run manuals.
                              I'm in the same boat.I'm the one that has to do all the manual stuff because there is no one else in the shop that has the experience.

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                              • #30
                                kcstott
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 11796

                                Originally posted by yari
                                Lo ya better back it up. Had a mastercam employee write us a program once. Needless to say he couldn't back it up. Boss came in saying what's wrong with the program I say would you like to pay to watch? Broke a 250$ endmill in the first 5 seconds. I got a raise that day.
                                And thats why i say every machinist needs to know manual machines first then progress to CNC

                                Then you'll have a better understanding of speeds and feeds and why you should not full width cut with your endmill half buried in the pocket.

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