Riveting tool

[ricemanff]

I am in need of ideas for riveting my AK. I don't have a toft tool or a rivet jig. I don't want to buy the jig to go on the front of the bolt cutters. I only plan on making thus one. Please help with your experience or do you have a tool I can rent.

[Alex$]

Google the tool measurements, you can grind your own bolt cutter

I am in need of ideas for riveting my AK. I don't have a toft tool or a rivet jig. I don't want to buy the jig to go on the front of the bolt cutters. I only plan on making thus one. Please help with your experience or do you have a tool I can rent.

[maurice05]

Why not find someone local who'll loan you there's. .I just had mines built for what I consider a reasonable price

[ricemanff]

I just have to rivet my trunnions and my trigger guard and I I done. If there it's someone near Stockton or Modesto send me a message

[Fern]

Why not buy 1 and sell it when your done. ATF has made borrowing tools a grey area and I doubt anyone is going to risk it.

[ricemanff]

Ok thanks for the info

[bigcalidave]

Why not buy 1 and sell it when your done. ATF has made borrowing tools a grey area and I doubt anyone is going to risk it.

No they have not. They have made an issue out of businesses performing or letting people perform the completion of a firearm on their premises for a profit. That's all. They have certainly not said that you can't borrow tools from someone to build your gun. Might as well say you can't build a gun in a rented house, or using electricity, or by looking up the information online.

Try to keep the ol' FUD down.

[killacam]

if you have a air compressor you should get a air hammer with a riveting bit. its a multi use tool so you can rivet your ak and then cut a bolt in 1/2

[valley82]

Buy one of these...

http://ak-builder.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29972

And one of these...

http://ak-builder.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29922

And one of these...

http://ak-builder.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30060

And one of these...

http://t.harborfreight.com/12-ton-shop-press-33497.html

Then put them up for sale after you are done.
I am good friends with one of the AKTEAM and he is not doing BPs right now because of what he was told, and I would say good luck having someone let you borrow their specialized tooling for free.

[sixgunner]

Gonna try the air hammer. Bought the bolt cutters also

[Fern]

No they have not. They have made an issue out of businesses performing or letting people perform the completion of a firearm on their premises for a profit. That's all. They have certainly not said that you can't borrow tools from someone to build your gun. Might as well say you can't build a gun in a rented house, or using electricity, or by looking up the information online.

Try to keep the ol' FUD down.

Ok, sorry about that. So what is your opinion why you don't see any Build Parties anymore? Same concept, if I am not mistaken.

[FML1982]

Loaning someone a tool and holding someones hand step by step are 2 totally different things. There is nothing to say that tool being loaned isn't for something else, ex. press, spot welder are used in automotive purposes and other things. A go/no-go is just for checking head spacing, nothing illegal about that. Standing by someone and giving/showing them specific instructions on how to do a process while using your equipment and taking money for it different scenario. If I lend you a press and you lend me a spot welder, so what. There is nothing illegal about the loaning of a tool.

[Fern]

OK. Instead of starting a debate, I will change my response to...Why not buy 1 and sell it when your done? 1 build will turn into 2,3,4...

[FML1982]

With the amount of effort that goes into the build by yourself, i think it deters a lot of persons away. It was great to just pay someone to show you how, but to go it alone without anybody telling yea/nea might be deterring to some. My thought was get a round robin type thing going. One person buys the press, another buys the go/no go gauges and riveting jig, someone else gets the welder with tongs, someone else could grab what ever and just start loaning back and forth. As long as everyone can be trusted and civil about things no reason why it couldn't work. I joined over at the AKfiles to try and find items to use to make life easier but its just big chunk of change to drop on tools to do it fast and easy for one build, better off just buying a new one and calling it a day. Im building one just to have a better understanding of how everything works together that way I can trouble shoot and adjust it myself instead of relying on someone else to look at it. Some people post WTB ads but I haven't seen much luck come out of those, mainly just responses to check craigslist.

[Fern]

The $ paid at BP's was for electricity, water, wear and tear on tooling, to replace broken equipment, maybe food and drink. It wasn't really a business per say, but a way to gather like minded individuals and tool around for a day IMHO. I bought ALL my tools second hand except for my drill press and drill bits. It can be done.