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  • WASR10
    • Aug 2011
    • 2455

    Question on Engraving an Anodized Lower

    If one were to have built a rifle from a pre-anodized paperweight, and now wishes to serialize it, would it be a good idea to have it re-anodized after the engraving? Would a color fill be sufficient? Would leaving the aluminum exposed be detrimental?

    Thank you.
    Mark 16:16
  • #2
    DazedandConfuzed
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 548

    I would suggest laser engraving.

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    • #3
      WASR10
      • Aug 2011
      • 2455

      Originally posted by DazedandConfuzed
      I would suggest laser engraving.
      Thank you. What is the difference?
      Mark 16:16

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      • #4
        WASR10
        • Aug 2011
        • 2455

        If anyone else has any feedback, I would appreciate it
        Mark 16:16

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        • #5
          Lostsheep
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 927

          I would not reanodize it for fear of changing the dimensions ever so slightly. It probably would not interfere with function but it will change.

          I assume you are worried about the exposed aluminum corroding. This is not unfounded but I suspect you could run a completely unanodized lower and it would last the rest of your life. It really isn't that big of a deal to have exposed aluminum unless your constantly submerging it or leaving it outside exposed to the elements.

          That being said, I agree with laser etching. As I understand it the laser leaves the ano in tact and only burns out the dye. Laser etching is also capable of much finer detail.

          Post pics when you're done.

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          • #6
            Intimid8tor
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2007
            • 6607

            You don't need to get it re-anodized. You can use alumablack if you want to make it less conspicuous, but there isn't a need to.

            As for engraving, you can do laser engraving and it discolors the anodizing. It is a great way to put designs, pics, markings, etc, on the lower. If you make a few more passes, the laser can go through the anodizing and remove material in the aluminum. IF you are putting on a serial number, maker, etc, you might as well follow the ATF rules and do it right. No use in doing it halfway.

            Alternatively, you can find someone with an engraver that uses a tool to remove metal. It would be essentially a cnc engraver that engraves the lower with a small bit.

            I had a couple lowers marked for NFA stuff and I had a guy do it with a laser. We then blackened them in so the markings were not as visible and all was good.
            Starve the beast, move to a free state.

            Bwiese: "You are making the assumption the law is reasonable/has rationale."

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            • #7
              WASR10
              • Aug 2011
              • 2455

              Thank you both, that is a load off my mind. Now I must search for a laser engraver in my area. I will post pics!
              Mark 16:16

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              • #8
                MLWI LaserEngraving
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 47

                Hello WASR10,

                This might be a bit late to respond to your question. You can actually laser engrave on Aluminum exposing the metal and changing the frequency on some lasers to reseal the surface, in this case you would not need to worry about oxidation as the surface is sealed. If the engraving is deep, say 0.030 to 0.040" deep you can also paint fill it . If you have any questions about laser engarving, welding, or cutting we do this for a living so please let me know or visit our website www.microlaserwelding.net or you can reach us at microlaserwelding@hotmail.com or 213-500-6943

                Thank you

                Victor

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                • #9
                  MLWI LaserEngraving
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 47

                  Laser Engraving

                  Hi,
                  It doesn't matter if you do it deep engraving.Always you can see it, and you can fill it with paint.

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                  • #10
                    MLWI LaserEngraving
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 47

                    Micro laser welding

                    Always people ask this question . Is it better to serialize the gun before or after anodize. The answer it doesn't matter. In Micro laser welding we can do it deep that you can see it deep crisp and clear. you can painted after engraving too.for more information contact us at Microlaserwelding@hotmail.com or see our website:http://microlaserwelding.net

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                    • #11
                      hermosabeach
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19291

                      Laser will burn away the metal while engraving is a variation of machining and removed metal in chips....

                      The Laser will have a cleaner cosmetic appearance than engraving.

                      Either way you want to go is fine... you can hard anodize so the pockets you cut are coated as well as the new engraving....

                      You can also simply fill the engraving in a variety of ways... similar to how one paints the markings on sights.
                      Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                      Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                      Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                      Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                      (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                      • #12
                        Maltese Falcon
                        Ordo Militaris Templi
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 6679

                        I had an already anodized 80% laser engraved and it came out nice. I wouldn't worry about filling in or re-anodizing.

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                        • #13
                          bksa
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 2012

                          laser engraving is for decoration only, it is not deep enough to be eligible for transfer.

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                          • #14
                            Intimid8tor
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6607

                            Originally posted by bksa
                            laser engraving is for decoration only, it is not deep enough to be eligible for transfer.
                            Not true. Laser engraving can get through the anodizing and into the metal with multiple passes. It will work just fine as long as the operator knows what you're looking for and knows how to use the machine.
                            Starve the beast, move to a free state.

                            Bwiese: "You are making the assumption the law is reasonable/has rationale."

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                            • #15
                              bksa
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 2012

                              that is highly dependent on the machine, and price.

                              you won't find a cheap job on a high powered laser, nor a cheap job on a sufficiently powered laser to do tons of passes.

                              the laser engravers offering their services here do not / can not take it to that depth for the price they are offering the service at.

                              Originally posted by Intimid8tor
                              Not true. Laser engraving can get through the anodizing and into the metal with multiple passes. It will work just fine as long as the operator knows what you're looking for and knows how to use the machine.

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