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  • #16
    kcstott
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 11796

    Originally posted by USPSA GM
    Just out of curiosity could you break down the design features that will make this work and are we talking about reducing recoil or muzzle flip? Or both?

    I have had the chance to work with some of the top pistol and rifle smiths over the last 20 years and have gone thru probably close to 20 different comp designs of the years and I am still looking for something better. Always willing to learn something new.
    Umm...... it has slots in it...... No seriously thats about all the design criteria i put in to this. I have no way to simulate the venting action, Nor do i have access to high speed video to capture a real world test. This was R&D'ed from an FN design (Rip off and Duplicate) I think people over think this stuff. Vent off the gasses, make the gasses act on a face of the brake that pushes on the brake reducing recoil. Reduced recoil equals reduced muzzle flip on a rifle, pistols need vertical venting to reduce muzzle flip as recoil reduction is not the major factor.

    if it wasn't to damn close to a suppressor you could just mount a large diameter tube to the end of the barrel, cap off the end of it and ream for minimal bullet clearance. The inside of the tube cap will act like a hydraulic piston when stuck by the gasses pulling the tube and barrel it's attached to forward reducing recoil.

    Keep in mind this thing is more for looks then anything else. I don't really care how well it preforms compared to other brakes and since I'm not in the market to waste ammo testing it is what it is.


    Or maybe thats just to damned honest.

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    Last edited by kcstott; 03-02-2014, 2:28 PM.

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    • #17
      madjack956
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 2617

      I played with some designs some years back for my TIKKA Tactical in .308.

      I ended up copying the brake that comes on the Springfield Armory M1A California version.

      Turned a prototype out of aluminum first and took it up to Burro Canyon to test. I made a loud announcement to the benches on each side of me of what I was up to when I was ready to go hot .

      It definitely worked. You could feel the difference. It did change the POI about .400 high right. But the grouping was as consistent as the grouping without it.

      All in all it was a lot of fun. Your model looks great KC.. Good Luck!
      Paralyzed Veterans of America www.pva.org

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      • #18
        kcstott
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2011
        • 11796

        Originally posted by madjack956
        I played with some designs some years back for my TIKKA Tactical in .308.

        I ended up copying the brake that comes on the Springfield Armory M1A California version.

        Turned a prototype out of aluminum first and took it up to Burro Canyon to test. I made a loud announcement to the benches on each side of me of what I was up to when I was ready to go hot .

        It definitely worked. You could feel the difference. It did change the POI about .400 high right. But the grouping was as consistent as the grouping without it.

        All in all it was a lot of fun. Your model looks great KC.. Good Luck!

        I could see that one being loud as he!!


        Heres what I got done yesterday.
        Last edited by kcstott; 03-02-2014, 7:45 PM.

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        • #19
          RDStott
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2014
          • 17

          the muzzle break on my rifle

          Here is My Remington 700 Sendero 300 win mag. That My Nephew KCstott is making that muzzle brake for. My rifle It is backweighted with floating lead, Has a Timney trigger installed. I have recently purchased a Leopold 8.5X25X50 LRT with TMR reticle that will be replacing the Nikon scope that is installed on it now, also it will soon be bedded. and then the final piece. That muzzle brake will be added. The muzzle brake will come in quite handy later this year .
          LOL It is good to have a Machinist/Gunsmith in the family 1148773_598495233535714_1705139829_n[1].jpg

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          • #20
            Twystd1
            Superfluous
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2009
            • 2692

            Holy Crappola.

            KC... This is for your uncle?

            Hell. Charge him double. Cuz family members will love you anyway.

            (Nice gun RD)

            -T

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            • #21
              kcstott
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2011
              • 11796

              I've got some family that couldn't get me to piss on them if they were on fire. The crew from Ohio is not in that bunch.

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              • #22
                1lowluv
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 946

                looking good.
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                • #23
                  RDStott
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 17

                  KC I live in Virginia remember. Like you I only visit OHIO.

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                  • #24
                    kcstott
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11796

                    Originally posted by RDStott
                    KC I live in Virginia remember. Like you I only visit OHIO.
                    yes But I did say FROM Ohio. and no matter where you move that little entry on your permanent record will never go away

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                    • #25
                      CRTguns
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 2627

                      ideally, the threads and bore should be cut in the same setup.

                      And the hole at 12 o'clock... will most likely cause the muzzle to dive.
                      When I was tinkering with brakes... I cut out a bunch of threaded and bored "blanks" to the experiment on with port size and pattern.

                      http://www.newlonprecision.com/ <-----------blanks. Cheap!


                      btw... this can become a sickness...I had to seek professional counseling to quit making muzzle brakes until the wee hours.
                      Last edited by CRTguns; 03-04-2014, 11:10 PM.

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                      • #26
                        meaty-btz
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 8980

                        Originally posted by kcstott
                        Milling machine and some expensive tools I haven't figured out how to draw a rotational cut with a radiused internal edge. So those slots you see will have a .093 radius top and bottom. I'd need an EDM to cut them square as pictured. It is going to be heavy thats for sure. My cad software says 3.3752 cubic inches so nearly one pound. This was a design my uncle came up with and it's not meant for a door kicker.
                        To lighten it you only need to drill holes where they won't intersect your vents longitudinally, from the front to the back of the brake. Structural strength really isn't an issue here as some brakes are paper thin in places.

                        On the plus side it will look "cooler".
                        ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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                        • #27
                          SandDiegoDuner
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 522

                          Hook the brake up to a garden hose for a crude test of the venting ability... Wear your beach clothes...

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                          • #28
                            kcstott
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 11796

                            CRT
                            Thanks for the info it will come in handy down the road with version 2.3.4.5.6......

                            Duner Thats was the plan but just looking at it i can see how it will flow just don't know about the first port

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                            • #29
                              SmokeWagon
                              Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 220

                              Why the keyway in the CAD renderings?
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                              • #30
                                kcstott
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 11796

                                Originally posted by SmokeWagon
                                Why the keyway in the CAD renderings?
                                If you mean the rear port, that's what it is, the first port that vents

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