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  • thatsteveguy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 1674

    AR lower flaw fix?

    I recently purchased online a billet lower. I had 3 lowers come in and to be honest I just gave a cursory look at them. When I first saw this "flaw" I thought it was just the transition line. <D'oh!> After I took possesion from the local FFL I started to build it and noticed this was a flaw behind the rear take down pin hole not a transition line. <D'oh! again> It's not a crack but feels about .010 above the flat surface. I'm thinking the finish cutter didn't "finish" the blend from the angle area to the flat area. I've contacted the seller and am awaiting instructions from them for a return. My question to you machinists and gunsmiths; is this an easy fix and then re-anodize or is that something that is not easily fixed? I really don't want to re-dros another lower obviously.

    This is what the other side looks like. (normal)
    Last edited by thatsteveguy; 01-10-2014, 11:39 AM. Reason: added info
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  • #2
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57128

    Cutting through the anodizing is no fun.
    The best way to fix it will be to strip the anodizing, re-machine and re-anodize.
    It will be cheaper for the manufacturer to just give you another one.
    You will have to re-dros that one as you are starting a new DROS for the new serial number.
    Of, you could just not worry about it because it's purely cosmetic.
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    • #3
      dchang0
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 2772

      Leave it alone and shoot the heck out of it. My lowers have scrapes and scratches all over them, so a cosmetic blemish is meaningless in that context.

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      • #4
        SVT-40
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2008
        • 12894

        Look at it this way... Yours is "special" and one of a kind... Just like a flaw on a postage stamp or coin.....

        Maybe someday it will be worth more than a "normal" lower.....
        Poke'm with a stick!


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        What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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        • #5
          kcstott
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2011
          • 11796

          You want to go through all the trouble and headache of stripping, blending in the step, and reanodizing??? I mean sure you could do it but.....

          Dude leave it alone and shoot it.

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          • #6
            19K
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 3621

            Is this a like special one of a kind lower that costs $1000's of dollars? No? Then shoot it.

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            • #7
              Cheep
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 1317

              That should have been called a "blem" but, shoot it anyway.
              Originally posted by NOMADCHRIS
              your asking a question about asking a question ??? just ask the damn question!!!

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              • #8
                klewan
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 3031

                They use acid to strip the anodizing, that will also remove metal and now everything is off spec. I don't get this obsession with every little nick or "the colors don't match"; it's like a bunch of women...

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                • #9
                  kcstott
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Originally posted by klewan
                  They use acid to strip the anodizing, that will also remove metal and now everything is off spec. I don't get this obsession with every little nick or "the colors don't match"; it's like a bunch of women...
                  Well it's not acid but it is caustic and corrosive.
                  It's alkaline dipped and will etch all of the anodize off and it will change the dimension of the part.

                  See anodizing is not a coating or plating process. It's a conversion.

                  The layer of anodize is split along the original surface. Meaning that 50% of the thickness is in the metal and 50% is on the metal.

                  So if you had a 1" square block and had it anodized with a layer thickness of .001" you would end up with a part that is only .001" over size because half of that build up is in the surface.
                  Now if you reanodize and strip the surface first and everything is perfect you part will now be .999" if you are lucky.

                  Not to mention all the tolerances on the ordinance print is taking into consideration that the part will be anodized and will affect the sizes of features.
                  Last edited by kcstott; 01-11-2014, 5:11 PM.

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                  • #10
                    rromeo
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 6981

                    Okay, where is the flaw I'm looking for?
                    Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

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                    (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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                    • #11
                      Syds Grandpa
                      Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 340

                      Important to know if it's hard ano. Hard Anodize is usually about .002 thick. Hard anodize penetrates as much as it build up. So the Ano will penetrate .001 and build up .001. If you strip that lower you are potentially going to open all the diameters up by .002. Not good. Go shoot it and leave it the way it is. Also, that's a bad spot to blend when machining lowers.

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                      • #12
                        mindwreck
                        Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 372

                        ask for some money back and just shoot it... not worth the trouble to machine and anzodize or redrosing new ones.

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                        • #13
                          semperfi24
                          Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 129

                          I looked at my lowers after reading this thread and they are the same as yours. They are from different manufacturers Mega, RRA, Riflegear, Franklin armory. I don't think it's a flaw, if I had to guess I think it would have something to with with leaving some extra material for strength on the takedown spring.

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                          • #14
                            thatsteveguy
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 1674

                            Well, I looked at my other billet and there isn't that "line" and there's gobs of material for strength for the takedown spring. I went online and found some photos of lowers made by the same company posted by their owners. Would you believe it, that line is on their lowers too! The serial number on mine is less than #1200 and the serial #1 lower shown on their FaceBook page showed the same "flaw". My question is; if your programer can get the CNC machine to blend one side, why can't he blend the other side. For the life of me I can't figure out why a company would knowingly anodize and release incomplete work! Anyway, I've cooled down and will take the advice of the CalGuns input and just finish building it and shoot it.
                            A good rifle build isn't cheap, but a bad one can be expensive!

                            My house; like the White House, is NOT a gun free zone!

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                            • #15
                              bohoki
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 20820

                              see if you can get a partial refund for your trouble and live with it

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