AK build question

[alexdamm]

Thanks for clearing that up fellas, there were a few ideas floating around out there that had me confused. Mainly this

as long as the person is present while you do the work, your perfectly legit.

[kcstott]

Thanks for clearing that up fellas, there were a few ideas floating around out there that had me confused. Mainly this

Let's be clear here and not take comments out of context please.
I stand by my above remark that you quoted. But remember the occasional aspect.
I nor you are attorneys so my belief of what the law allows is different then your belief. Now the ATF on the other hand is limited in what they can make opinions on as they are an enforcement agency not a part of the judicial branch that create laws.
Now I will say one thing I stand corrected on the ATF issue as it pertains to 80% AR lowers. I talked to a trusted friend that had access to two letters from the ATF. I still believe that once the firearm portion is met the rest is assembly and as long as the chain of custody requirements are met for the occasional work aspect of the law anyone can assemble the weapon so long as they are not prohibited from possessing a weapon.

[alexdamm]

then I would refer you to CSACANNONEER's comment above

[AKSOG]

[kcstott]

And that's all I've got to say about that

[alexdamm]

[valley82]

Occasional and 100 receivers bought, built and sold. These are two different arguments.

[alexdamm]

Occasional and 100 receivers bought, built and sold. These are two different arguments.

The distinction is whether you are operating a business or not, You could still be running a business but only having OCCASIONAL customers, just means your business is shytty. Its when your engaging in business type behavior, such as running a website, marketing your service for economic gain, that puts you on the radar.

I guess if the ATF looks at what your trying to do and if your not being very successful at it, they will probably just laugh it off.

[valley82]

OK.

[CSACANNONEER]

Occasional and 100 receivers bought, built and sold. These are two different arguments.

Yes and no. I was responding to a blanket statement that it was alright period. Granite did not talk about "occasional" or any other parameters. I merely pointed out the fact that his statement isn't always true.

[CSACANNONEER]

The distinction is whether you are operating a business or not, You could still be running a business but only having OCCASIONAL customers, just means your business is shytty. Its when your engaging in business type behavior, such as running a website, marketing your service for economic gain, that puts you on the radar.

I guess if the ATF looks at what your trying to do and if your not being very successful at it, they will probably just laugh it off.

I don't think you understand. Many businesses do a lot of one or more things and a little bit of another every once in a while. Just because a business, like an auto repair shop, does 7 figures in repairs and builds two cars a year from scratch. It doesn't mean those two cars are shytty or that the business isn't successful. It just means that building two cars a year isn't how the business makes most of it's profit.

[alexdamm]

I wasnt making any blanket statement about businesses and if their volume of product equates to quality. I was only making the statement that when your engaged in business type activities. It doest matter if its one or a hundred. They only care if your trying to run a business.

[valley82]

Yes and no. I was responding to a blanket statement that it was alright period. Granite did not talk about "occasional" or any other parameters. I merely pointed out the fact that his statement isn't always true.

Agreed

[CSACANNONEER]

I wasnt making any blanket statement about businesses and if their volume of product equates to quality. I was only making the statement that when your engaged in business type activities. It doest matter if its one or a hundred. They only care if your trying to run a business.

Actually, the number of firearms a 07FFL builds per year is something that "they" do care a lot about. If it's less than 50 or 51 (I forget and am too lazy to look it up), no extra tax is required. If they build or even assemble more than that, they are responsible for paying a tax on every single one. So, even if you have an 07FFL, "they" care about the numbers.

[alexdamm]

Very true. The key in your statement is the presence of liscense. It was also something I was curious about. Whether or not the person doing the work for someone needed to be a liscence holder.