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  • DENCO
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 332

    Custom Made Buffer Tube (pics loaded)

    Anyone make their own buffer tube?


    Anyway I seen a company making AR pistols with a forward grip for Ca. The company is in Morgan Hill. OK so my pistol I built has a 10.5 barrel which I cut down from a 16" and threaded/crowned the end.

    Well that pistol they sell- and I read the BTF letter they include on there web site (short story) as long as it is more than 26" long then it's legal in Ca to have a forward grip (grip pod) I have. Some barrel length requirments as well but I met all that so I should be good to go...

    So my gun with a carbine buffer tube is 25 inches (26 including the flash hider) I did not want to weld or pin the FH so I made a buffer tube 1.5 inches longer. I made it a bit fatter than stock then I bored out the back end and put in a threaded cap to hold my BTF letter.

    I am sure I could buy something longer but the fun was in making it.

    Not done yet- a few more hours -I will post some once I finish.

    edit, LOL no body wants top read all my BS!! parts is parts!








    Last edited by DENCO; 02-05-2013, 10:10 AM.
  • #2
    556guy
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 14

    Nice work. I have been talking to a friend about doing this same thing.

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    • #3
      DENCO
      Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 332

      Originally posted by 556guy
      Nice work. I have been talking to a friend about doing this same thing.
      Thank you it was a fair amount of work on a manual lathe. I got your PM as well.
      I am going to ball mill the sides today then get it cleaned up and painted.
      Let me think about what you asked and I will get back to you.

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57117

        Originally posted by DENCO
        Well that pistol they sell- and I read the BTF letter they include on there web site (short story) as long as it is more than 26" long then it's legal in Ca to have a forward grip (grip pod) I have. Some barrel length requirments as well but I met all that so I should be good to go...

        So my gun with a carbine buffer tube is 25 inches (26 including the flash hider) I did not want to weld or pin the FH so I made a buffer tube 1.5 inches longer. I made it a bit fatter than stock then I bored out the back end and put in a threaded cap to hold my BTF letter.
        Your muzzle device does not need to be permanent attached to meet California overall length as long as the barrel meets federal length requirements for the type of gun you are making.

        Also, why did you cut long threads and use a carbine castle nut when you could have just shouldered the tube like an A2 stock?
        I think it looks cleaner with an integral shoulder than the castle nut.
        Last edited by ar15barrels; 02-05-2013, 9:57 AM.
        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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        • #5
          Iskra
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 513

          I actually like the castle nut. Once you're threading anyway, might as well cut a little further for the nut, and it allows you to set your tube precisely against the buffer retaining pin every time.
          I don't shoot because I like guns, I shoot because I hate paper.

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          • #6
            DENCO
            Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 332

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            Your muzzle device does not need to be permanent attached to meet California overall length as long as the barrel meets federal length requirements for the type of gun you are making.

            Also, why did you cut long threads and use a carbine castle nut when you could have just shouldered the tube like an A2 stock?
            I think it looks cleaner with an integral shoulder than the castle nut.
            Dang i dont know why LOL aways easier to look at things different after the fact!! Good point tho and yes it would be way cleaner looking. registration maybe a bit tricky with the groove for the rear plate tho. but i dont know have to think a little more on that one. All just in fun.. I can make more!!

            I did not realize the flash hider would not affect the length issue since it is easy to remove. Although so is the buffer tube if ya think about it. Nothing just comes off without tools...

            Over kill I guess for the cop with a harbor freight tape measure

            Thanks for the good ideas.
            Last edited by DENCO; 02-05-2013, 10:22 AM.

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            • #7
              DENCO
              Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 332

              Originally posted by Iskra
              I actually like the castle nut. Once you're threading anyway, might as well cut a little further for the nut, and it allows you to set your tube precisely against the buffer retaining pin every time.
              Thats whats cool about others input, I kinda like the nut too. But a shoulder if ya spend the time to get everything right would be cool too.

              I have seen parts claimed mill spec that have a thread started maybe at the outside of the spec, then maybe a nut at the inside of the spec. Things get a bit off or require more torque getting things to line up thats when the nut maybe helpfull...

              So liitle time- so many options

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57117

                Originally posted by Iskra
                it allows you to set your tube precisely against the buffer retaining pin every time.
                So does a fixed shouder when you cut it to the proper length for the receiver.
                A2 buffer tubes do not seem to have any problem retaining the buffer detents except when receivers are out of spec.
                Out of spec receivers seem to be the domain of the 80% lower crowd though.
                When you are making the buffer tube yourself, it's easy to correct for even an out-of-spec receiver...
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #9
                  jfifer
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 3205

                  So i can have a pistol length barrel with a stock in cali?

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                  • #10
                    ADAM
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2497

                    Originally posted by fiferronald
                    So i can have a pistol length barrel with a stock in cali?
                    no stock pistol,add stock its sbr
                    sigpic I said I didn"t have much use for one,didn"t say I didn"t know how to use it. MATTHEW QUIGLEY

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                    • #11
                      jh4db536
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 77

                      At what point of machining or molding does a (modified) buffer tube become considered a carbine/rifle stock on an ar pistol? Similar to the question when a 80% lower becomes a firearm...

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                      • #12
                        DENCO
                        Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 332

                        Originally posted by jh4db536
                        At what point of machining or molding does a (modified) buffer tube become considered a carbine/rifle stock on an ar pistol? Similar to the question when a 80% lower becomes a firearm...

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                        As far as I understand never, its only parts. The lower is the only part that dictates a rifle or pistol. Keep in mind this is Ca.

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                        • #13
                          DENCO
                          Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 332

                          Slapped some funk on it

                          Next step is a stone impregnated rubber buffing wheel then paint- and it's done.





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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57117

                            Originally posted by jh4db536
                            At what point of machining or molding does a (modified) buffer tube become considered a carbine/rifle stock on an ar pistol?
                            When you make it so you can place it against your shoulder to fire it.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • #15
                              L4D
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3053

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              When you make it so you can place it against your shoulder to fire it.
                              like increasing the length?
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