M14 Receiver 80%

[liqu]

I have a unfinished m14 receiver (Armscorp, stainless steel I think).
Amost all the work is done, only 1 hole to drill and heat treat, I am unsure who can do the heat treat? and check the work that's done.

Thanks Cliff

PS I bought this at the Orange County Gun Show in the 1980s

[Whoneedsafety?]

Awesome!

[wash]

You kind of need to know what type of steel you're working with to do heat treat.

If you don't, you might be able to guess by checking to see when it goes non-magnetic unless it's already not magnetic...

Just make sure you've got all your semi-auto stuff in place, "M14s" done improperly are known for causing NFA issues. Don't be that guy.

[Mg911guy]

IIRC there is a company (Sorry I can't remember the name) in Salt Lake City, UT that can heat treat and is an FFL. I'm pretty sure once it's complete you have to use an FFL (it's a firearm now) or wait while they heat treat it , not likely.
Look it up on this M-14 forum m14forum.com

[Gunsmith Dan]

What I was told by BATF&E prior to getting my FFL no FFL can work on 80% receiver/frames without the owner present at all times, not that I would not love the extra work.

[yari]

Hey Dan can you be more specific, you can't work on an 80% that's been completed by the owner? Or you can't work on an unfinished 80%.

[Gunsmith Dan]

either (if the unfinished 80% receiver is not for my own personal use and by "working on the 80% receiver" does not involve removing or adding material in the areas that were not milled out that contain the other 20%. Example: I could cut off the trigger guard but could not drill holes for the trigger group).

owners of 80% receivers/frames can not lend completed receivers/frames to anyone which is what you do when you have someone else work on them. In fact unless the owner is standing there the whole time I can not even parkerize or paint one for them. So I could work on any other part in the firearm except for the 80% receiver/frame which is a super silly rule but that is how the BATF&E is interpeting the law.

Here is a funny one too ..... unless I have a 07 FFL for manufacturing and a customer brought only the complete upper or complete lower with registered receiver and bought the other completed side from me I could not put the rifle together. If they bring me all the parts I could build the rifle without a 07 FFL ..... silly isn't it.

[yari]

It is silly. I thought as long as you put serial numbers, location ect. you could send your completed lower/frame/receiver to an FFL for finishing/anodizing ect. I don't see how heat treating would differ. Hopefully someone else will chime in here.

[Gunsmith Dan]

Posted a update to that info here that better explains and corrects information that local ATF had told me.

[Mg911guy]

Posted a update to that info here that better explains and corrects information that local ATF had told me.

That's what I thought (and said above). I was looking to get an 03-A3 receiver heat treated a couple of years ago and needed to find a place with at least an 01 FFL. That's when I came across the place in Salt Lake City they hold an 01 FFL and ship and receive firearms all the time.
It's the same as any gunsmith they need to be at the very least and 01 FFL to receive and return your firearm.
IIRC a 03 FFL can't do it because it's not a license to operate as a business.

[Mg911guy]

It is silly. I thought as long as you put serial numbers, location ect. you could send your completed lower/frame/receiver to an FFL for finishing/anodizing ect. I don't see how heat treating would differ. Hopefully someone else will chime in here.

You aren't required to put any serial numbers or location etc. It is only recommended that you do. I would think an FFL would/could have a problem with an unmarked firearm/receiver only because they have to note that info in their Bound book?
I have noted my personal serial number on mine. I just think it's better for me in the event of theft or if I need gunsmith work. I have no intention of ever selling it.