Mac Build

[bee7851]

I saw this flat for a Mac-10 on Gunbroker and wanted to ask if this was even legal to build into a complete firearm. Since it's a pistol, how does the "drop test" apply to a home build?

I wouldn't even know how to begin any kind of build or where to buy a parts kit, but just thought I'd ask if this was legal. Guess you can say I'm just curious... Hope this is ok.

Thanks in advance.

Here's the link...

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=91629480

[C.G.]

The only way would be to build it as a single shot (not semi). I am not sure why anyone would want to do that, they are not all that accurate. Come to think of it, I am not sure why anyone would want one even in semi-auto.

[bee7851]

PPT? Really? But aren't they illegal? Also, how can someone even have one here? Unless it's a registered AW.. right? and if it's a registered AW, then they can't sell it to anyone in this state.

Man.. I feel a headache coming on! lol. This is why I've never got into the whole OLL thing... it just confuses me! lol.

[rue]

Mac types are class 1's and you can't sell them PPT.

[bee7851]

so then there really isn't a way to build the flat? Besides single shot? Am I understanding this correctly?

[C.G.]

Mac types are class 1's and you can't sell them PPT.

Yes, they are, my bad I shouldn't post when I haven't had enough sleep. Edited my earlier post, thanks for catching it.

[aplinker]

Wait. This thread is full of incorrect information.

It's a flat so it's not marked with anything so there's no way it can be a class 1. There's no such thing as a banned "type." It has to be by make and model.

You can build it up into any legal configuration, just like people are doing with AKs. For this it means no threaded barrel.

Why did you say only single shot? That's not true at all. I think you're confusing it with importing a working firearm that's not on the list.

[saki302]

'Search' is your friend- I remember seeing at least one member do a successful build last year.

Consensus here is it's legal to build now if you mark 'not for sale or transfer' on the receiver, and make SURE it has no SB23 features.

-Dave

[Ford8N]

If you did a build with a flat, does the Mac need to be heat treated? That would be my only concern.

[AJAX22]

The hammer and trigger pivot holes do need to be heat treated, mine got egged out a bit before I realized that they were wearing.

[rue]

Wait. This thread is full of incorrect information.

It's a flat so it's not marked with anything so there's no way it can be a class 1. There's no such thing as a banned "type." It has to be by make and model.

I'm sure you can build it from a flat but it does say "Mac type" on the

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/awguide.pdf

Look under pistols and you'll see what I mean.

[AJAX22]

The cobray M11/9 was never produced by MAC neither was the PM12-380 or the PM11/9

Aditionally, no guns are banned by 'series' now (which is why we can have AR's and AK's)

My gun is an AJAX ARMS A00001 not a 'mac type'

This thread is full of bad info.

Home built pistols are exempt from drop safety testing (only pistols manufactred for sale are subject to that requirement). They are also exempt from registration requirements, waiting periods, and exise tax.

I'm not the only guy who's made one, several other guys on here have homebuilt closed bolt 9mm's

Its legal, it's just expensive

[bee7851]

Got it... Thanks for the info.

Now how hard was it to build? What does building entail? Welding? Jigs? Etc? Are there parts kits available for this type of build?

[daves100]

PM11/9

how can the PM 11/9 be banned it was sold in CA awhile ago it does not have a threaded barrel or a flash hider on it.

[rue]

I'm staying out of this one. I just read the Pistol section and it says "Mac Types" and I'm pointing it out. If you build from a flat and it has no threaded barrel and the mags are 10 rounders then I'd assume it's legal but I'm not going to bet my freedom on it.