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  • Prc329
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2006
    • 5603

    1911 kits?

    Any recommended for 1911 kits? As I wait patiently for my Ares frame I'm looking at parts. I've build a few other rifles but never a 1911. Any recommended kits. List of parts I'll need? I'm planning on a commander build. I like that length. Haven't decided on what caliber yet and I'm thinking of using a ramped barrel.
    Last edited by Prc329; 06-27-2012, 4:06 PM.
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    762shooter
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    • Jan 2012
    • 279

    Other than sarco, wilson combat has an upper and lower 1911 parts kit.

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      eightmd
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 571

      I haven't seen these kits. I'd like to ask a few of questions.
      Where do you get the frame for the build?
      How much work is involved in putting all the parts together? I know how to field strip a 45 but looks like there is a lot more work in assembling this.
      What kind of tools do you need to get the job done?

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        wash
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2007
        • 9011

        Occasionally you can find a used slide that is a lot cheaper than buying new.

        Used barrels are more complicated because the bottom lugs need fitting if you want to optimize lug engagement in the slide and if your slide stop pin hole is too low, your rails are too high or some other bad tolerance stack you'll need more lug than you've got.

        A used slide often comes with a firing pin stop, extractor, firing pin, firing pin spring and sights so that helps with the budget too.

        The Ed Brown pin kits seem to be the best deal on small parts.

        Colt plastic mainspring housings are cheap and light weight.

        Hammer, trigger, disconnector and sear are what make 1911s special so don't skimp too much. I'm going with a Wilson hammer, STI plastic trigger, EGW ball head disconnector and EGW hard sear. All quality parts that are only a few dollars more than budget parts.

        EGW sells angle bored barrel bushings with custom oversized skirts, just measure your slide and barrel to order one that drops in with a precision fit.

        The rest of the parts are a matter of preference and budget.

        If you can't find a good used slide, look at STI, they seem to be cheaper than Caspian and offer lots of options.
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          wchutt
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 590

          I am waiting to see what deals come from the possible Wilson or Caspian buy associated with the Ares frame buy. If there are at least 100 frames sold there are a lot of people who will need the rest of the parts, should b able to harness some decen buying power on kits...

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            iHate.Kalifornia
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 93

            Originally posted by wchutt
            I am waiting to see what deals come from the possible Wilson or Caspian buy associated with the Ares frame buy. If there are at least 100 frames sold there are a lot of people who will need the rest of the parts, should b able to harness some decen buying power on kits...
            Last time I went in there they said that a little over 600 had been pre ordered.

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              Tjfearl
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 1108

              Originally posted by wchutt
              I am waiting to see what deals come from the possible Wilson or Caspian buy associated with the Ares frame buy. If there are at least 100 frames sold there are a lot of people who will need the rest of the parts, should b able to harness some decen buying power on kits...
              I was told the Caspian parts GB would just be 10-20% off parts and slides.

              I have been thinking about getting one of these pre-fit barrels. Any ideas or advice?

              Last edited by Tjfearl; 06-28-2012, 11:16 AM.
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                greybeard
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                • Nov 2008
                • 1086

                I guess prefitted to what?
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                • #10
                  em9sredbeam
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 3429

                  tagged.. Always wanted to do one. maybe I will go bug my machinest father...
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                    Tjfearl
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 1108

                    Originally posted by greybeard
                    I guess prefitted to what?
                    Pre-fitted bushing to barrel. look at the link.
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                      Prc329
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                      • Oct 2006
                      • 5603

                      Are there any drop in parts or does everything need to be fitted?
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                        greybeard
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1086

                        Originally posted by Tjfearl
                        Pre-fitted bushing to barrel. look at the link.
                        That is part of the fitting still need for fitting.
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                        • #14
                          wash
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 9011

                          Originally posted by Prc329
                          Are there any drop in parts or does everything need to be fitted?
                          The hammer, sear, barrel, disconnector, extractor, trigger and slide to frame fit should all be hand fit for match accuracy.

                          You can order up a bushing with really tight tolerance that will barely need fitting.

                          There are drop in versions of pretty much everything else but you should very carefully check the thumb and grip safeties to make sure they don't need fitting for proper function. I consider it a given that my safeties will need fitting.

                          After that it's largely a matter of aesthetics and ergonomics. Hand fitting everything will make the gun look nice and feel nice if properly done.

                          It's a lot more work than an AR or AK build for sure.
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                          Originally posted by oaklander
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                            FMJBT
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 4888

                            I've gone through Fusion Firearms for a lot of 1911 parts. Their stuff is always very high quality. They sell matched trigger kits that are the martha frackin bomb.

                            Premium 1911 and modern handguns, match-grade parts, and expert gunsmithing. Authorized FFL dealer.


                            I have this trigger in my longslide 1911 built on a KT Ordnance frame. I've lost count of how many people I've converted into 1911 freaks: with this gun, mostly due to the trigger:

                            Premium 1911 and modern handguns, match-grade parts, and expert gunsmithing. Authorized FFL dealer.
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