welding up evil hole?

[Domingo]

question about welding the evil hole on a yugo milled(cut) receiver.
can anyone with a little more experince let me know if it will be legal to weld one of the axis pin in the evil hole from the inside the way from the outside it will look correct but it will not be functional since it will be welded from the inside I could even cut the pin and just use the ends of the pin
I'm working on a yugo m64 (this will be my last build right Nico)

[SVT-40]

I would say no, it would not be legal because the holes still exists in the receiver. Since the holes still exist it would still be a MG.

[Domingo]

but since the pin is welded to the receiver the hole is not their anymore

[kcstott]

Incorrect. The receiver has to be made so that it can not allow the parts to be installed. And we have a letter on this so I don't want to hear it. BUT I would not try it as they may be able to get you on constructive possession. As the holes are there just not all the way through and would be very easy for someone with a hand drill to fix.
That's we're I feel it's legal but far from smart.

Now if you want to maintain the look I'd weld the pins in place from the inside and out then machine around the pin to make it look correct but still integral to the receiver. At least that way they couldn't get you on constructive possession

[TATER313]

NO I see 80% AR lowers in your future, then maybe 80% 45 frame, we really need to get a mill Domingo.

[SVT-40]

but since the pin is welded to the receiver the hole is not their anymore

Just because you weld in a pin in a hole does not mean the hole ceases to exist. The pin just occupies the hole. Welding a pin on the inside of the receiver would keep the pin in place, however it would not make the original hole go away.

Why play games. Weld up the hole entirely, then if you wish weld fake pin ends on the receiver where the pins would be located.

[TATER313]

how much have you completed on the yugo? Ill will be painting on friday if you need me to blast or paint for you let me know.

[RazzB7]

I saw somewhere where someone painted rare earth magnets and put them on the side of the receiver where the "evil hole" was.

[m03]

If it's a legitimately demilled receiver, then it's scrap metal until such time as it becomes a receiver again. If you filled the hole in the scrap metal before it was turned into a receiver, it seems like that would be fine.

With that said, the BATFE may have a different opinion in such a case (especially if you're filling the hole with an axis pin...that's just asking for trouble!).

IMHO, IANAL, etc.

[Gunsmith Dan]

As far as I know filling the hole completely by welding steel into it would make you legal, since even with a receiver with no hole you could drill it out.

The way you guys are applying the constructive possesion law that means if he had a receiver with no hole from the factory and owned a drill press, power hand drill or heck even a T handle with a drill chuck then he would be in violation of the law.

The law clearly states that the item must be able to be readily modified. Drilling out a weld or drilling a new hole is the same difference and definately not something that can be modified just by installing parts.

The REAL problem with welding steel that thin though is you would distort the hardness of the steel around the hole.If you not careful you could end up with a large area that is not the same hardness as the rest of the receiver.

[Merc1138]

As far as I know filling the hole completely by welding steel into it would make you legal, since even with a receiver with no hole you could drill it out.

The way you guys are applying the constructive possesion law that means if he had a receiver with no hole from the factory and owned a drill press, power hand drill or heck even a T handle with a drill chuck then he would be in violation of the law.

The law clearly states that the item must be able to be readily modified. Drilling out a weld or drilling a new hole is the same difference and definately not something that can be modified just by installing parts.

The REAL problem with welding steel that thin though is you would distort the hardness of the steel around the hole.If you not careful you could end up with a large area that is not the same hardness as the rest of the receiver.

Re-read the original post. He isn't talking about welding up the hole, he's talking about welding a pin inside the hole so it looks like there is a pin externally.

As people have pointed out, the hole would still exist, just with part of a pin in it.

[Gunsmith Dan]

Originally Posted by Gunsmith Dan
As far as I know filling the hole completely by welding steel into it would make you legal, since even with a receiver with no hole you could drill it out.

Maybe you should reread mine.....

The way I read his post he said he would have the pin on the inside and weld it up then if needed cut off the part hanging outside if needed. Putting a steel pin in a hole and welding around it completely or just letting steel rod drip into the hole is still in welding terms filling the hole with steel.

As long as it required some sort of tool to redrill the hole out he would be fine .... even with the pin sticking out. What would not be legal is spot welding the pin in so a good yank or twist with a pair of pliers or a strike from hammer blows would remove it.

I also was responding to others in the post, just kinda grouped it all up in one response to all.

[tujungatoes]

I think it's a bad idea. The only way I'd be comfortable with it is if you could guarantee 100% complete weld penetration(even then). Without that there's always a chance you'd be able to hit the pin stub with a punch and have it snap the weld and pop right out. Then you've got a receiver with an extra hole in it. Presto!...Instant vacation at club-fed. I'm with SVT-40 on this one. Fill those holes completely.

This is just my opinion. YMMV, CYA, IANAL....etc.

[chiz]

Weld the hole shut then cut the top of the axis pin and spot weld it where it goes.

[nicoroshi]

IMHO why chance it?
Weld it shut, and don't forget to also weld shut that notch in the right side interior rail.
Don't want to have anywhere the 'No-No' parts could fit.