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  • infernl
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 892

    AK Build problems:

    This past summer I bought a 1979 Romanian G kit, which I added a Timbersmith wood kit to. I painstakingly refinished the Timbersmith stock long before I built the receiver at an AK Team build party. Yesterday, I finally got a chance to take the rifle out and put rounds through it which uncovered problems.

    Problem #1: The screws holding the stock to the rear trunnion keep backing out. Didn't matter how tight I screwed them down. Would thread locker help here, or am I just asking for more problems?

    Problem #2: Every few rounds, I have a failure to fire. The primer shows a strike, and if I hand- feed that same round it will fire every time. What gives here?

    Any insight would be appreciated, thanks!
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    infernl
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    • May 2010
    • 892

    Also, for some reason, this rifle is about as accurate as minute of barn door... What to do make this thing better than a spray and pray rifle?
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    • #3
      SamsDX
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 1451

      Before or after you built the rifle, did you get a chance to clean the firing pin and the firing pin channel in the bolt? There could be some cosmoline or other gunk that's holding it up. Beyond that, I would check to make sure that your FCG components are installed properly.

      As far as accuracy goes, what kind of groups are you getting? Pictures would help. For the most part, though, once the barrel is installed and the headspace set, there's not a whole lot you can do to improve accuracy.
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      • #4
        nicoroshi
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        • Jan 2009
        • 3696

        As for the stock screws try glue. Sounds like the wood is stripped from over tightening the screws.

        As for the FTF issue I need more information.
        Picture of unfired round primer strike please.
        Did you actually pull the trigger, and got a click or is the rifle cycling, and trigger slack?
        What kind of ammo?
        Need to also see bolt, and firing pin (back, and front of firing pin).

        Accuracy issue:
        Picture of crown on muzzle. Pitted or chipped chrome on crown?
        Are you used to shooting AK style sights?

        An AK with iron sights at 50 yards, and imported Russian 'animal ammo' should shoot like this>>>

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        • #5
          tujungatoes
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2006
          • 7942

          Originally posted by infernl
          This past summer I bought a 1979 Romanian G kit, which I added a Timbersmith wood kit to. I painstakingly refinished the Timbersmith stock long before I built the receiver at an AK Team build party. Yesterday, I finally got a chance to take the rifle out and put rounds through it which uncovered problems.

          Problem #1: The screws holding the stock to the rear trunnion keep backing out. Didn't matter how tight I screwed them down. Would thread locker help here, or am I just asking for more problems?

          Problem #2: Every few rounds, I have a failure to fire. The primer shows a strike, and if I hand- feed that same round it will fire every time. What gives here?

          Any insight would be appreciated, thanks!
          1. A good way to fix stripped/oversized screw holes is to drill them out and glue in a hardwood dowel. Then re-drill them to the correct size.

          2. Definitely need more details on the FTF....FCG properly installed, and function checked? Hammer follow? bolt and firing pin de-gunked? Ammo?

          ...as far as accuracy. Different people have different ideas as far as what constitutes accurate. What did your targets look like?
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          • #6
            FastFinger
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            • Aug 2007
            • 2983

            Another quick fix for the screws... Squirt a bit of carpenter's glue into the stock holes, and then jam some wood toothpicks into the holes, cutting or sanding them off at grade. Allow to dry and the try again with the wood screws.
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            • #7
              infernl
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 892

              The screw holes in the stock weren't stripped and weren't drilled too large. I realized while shooting, that I had not tightened them down all the way, and thats why my stock was never aligned properly with the receiver. Tightening them didn't do anything to keep them tight. I think I'll try the glue trick to seed if it helps.

              As far as the light primer strikes, I didn't save any of the bullets with light strikes. I fed them one at a time back in, and they fired every time. The strike was about half as deep as a typical round that had fired on first try. I'll boil the bolt trio see if I can get any more cosmoline out of it. The kit was super clean when I got it.

              Accuracy... I'll admit that I have no experience shooting AK open sights. Perhaps I'm doing it wrong. I'd love some
              Advice on the finer points. I couldn't hit anything I aimed at, and was only shooting at things, not standard target rings.
              Last edited by infernl; 11-27-2011, 8:32 PM.
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              • #8
                infernl
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                • May 2010
                • 892

                Ammo:




                Added another photo
                Last edited by infernl; 11-27-2011, 9:02 PM. Reason: Added another photo
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                • #9
                  mrlonewolf
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 4003

                  Originally posted by infernl
                  Ammo:
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                  Good stuff....
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                  • #10
                    mrlonewolf
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                    • Jul 2008
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                    Originally posted by infernl
                    The screw holes in the stock weren't stripped and weren't drilled too large. I realized while shooting, that I had not tightened them down all the way, and thats why my stock was never aligned properly with the receiver. Tightening them didn't do anything to keep them tight. I think I'll try the glue trick to seed if it helps.

                    As far as the light primer strikes, I didn't save any of the bullets with light strikes. I fed them one at a time back in, and they fired every time. The strike was about half as deep as a typical round that had fired on first try. I'll boil the bolt trio see if I can get any more cosmoline out of it. The kit was super clean when I got it.

                    Accuracy... I'll admit that I have no experience shooting AK open sights. Perhaps I'm doing it wrong. I'd love some
                    Advice on the finer points. I couldn't hit anything I aimed at, and was only shooting at things, not standard target rings.

                    The AK Team is on duty 24/7.

                    I would love to inspect your build.

                    Please feel free to PM me at your earliest convenience.

                    Thank you.
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                    • #11
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                      • Sep 2010
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                      Did you ever zero your sights? Do you have a sight adjustment tool?
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                      • #12
                        nicoroshi
                        www.Buildyourownak.info
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                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3696

                        Originally posted by mrlonewolf
                        The AK Team is on duty 24/7.

                        I would love to inspect your build.

                        Please feel free to PM me at your earliest convenience.

                        Thank you.
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                        • #13
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                          • Apr 2008
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                          Mojo Sights work wonders!
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                          • #14
                            HotRails
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                            • May 2008
                            • 1491

                            When you dissassamble that bolt, also check to make sure there isn't a whole lot of material behind the extractor. One kit I had required that I pry out the extractor with a flathead screwdriver so naturally it was completely immobile.

                            All great Ak gurus you got on here!

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                            • #15
                              wash
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                              • Aug 2007
                              • 9011

                              It's inaccurate but you haven't mentioned what kind of barrel you have...
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